Pre trib rapture is false along with Eternal security

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We all  should be prepared to meet our Maker Jesus Christ – God  at any time, whether it be Post-Trib, Pre-Trib, 10  years from now, tomorrow, or with our next breath being our last but firstly many are not, and   still God never had  promised we would escape persecution as half of the Christians already do know world wide  so why do a few select persons falsely believe  all Christians will escape the rapture, wishfull thinking on their part.. or they are just plain dumb?
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“If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.  19) If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20) Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.  21) But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me.”(John 15:18-21, KJV)
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“… the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15) I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.” (John 17:14b-15, KJV)

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 Paul wrote to Timothy: “Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.” (II Tim. 3:12, KJV)

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“If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you; on their part evil is spoken of, but on your part He is glorified.” (I Peter 3:14)

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Corrie Ten Boom’s   in THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO  comments on the Pre-Tribulation Rapture view which is popular today. She relays a word of warning to us in the West from the Suffering Church in China. She exhorts us to prepare ourselves spiritually in Christ, in His Holy Word, and by His Holy Spirit for the coming trials of our faith. She tells of the Chinese Church in a former time being misinformed, unwarned, and ill-prepared for he persecutions that began in 1949 under Mao Tse Tung’s Red Guards. In this letter Corrie warns that Christians in the West today are in danger of falling into a similar disaster born of ecclesiastical neglect and the resultant spiritual unpreparedness. Corrie, in classic Dutch directness plainly states that those who teach a Pre-Tribulation Rapture are among the false teachers Jesus warned us about. See Mat.24:4-5).

http://endtimepilgrim.org/corrie.htm

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Millions of godly believers for almost 1,800 years did not believe in a pretribulation rapture. Among these were the reformers of the 1500s and the revivalists of the 1600s-1700s. George Mueller, who lived in the mid-1800s, is reported to have stated, “If you can show me a trumpet after the last (1 Cor. 15:52) and a resurrection before the first (Rev. 20:4-5), then I can believe this new doctrine.”

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Jesus’ final teaching on His Second Coming, given on the Mount of Olives, and recorded in Matthew 24 and 25, is extremely clear. In Matthew 24, there is no Second Coming and no rapture until “after the tribulation of those days … [for] then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other” (Matt. 24:29-31).

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Paul, in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52, places the rapture of the church “at the last trumpet,” as does John in Revelation 11:15-18:  “The seventh angel sounded his trumpet [the last one], and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ and He will reign forever and ever … The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding Your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence Your Name, both small and great … .”

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The rapture of the church is definitely biblical, but when will the rapture occur? Will it be before (pre), during (mid) or after (post) the great tribulation? Five Scriptures are very clear regarding the exact timing of the rapture. 
 1.   And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of theearth to the ends of the heavens (Mark 13:27).NOTE: This event is the rapture. The elect will be gathered from earth to heaven and it occurs posttribulation (or that distress depending on the translation referred to), according to Mark 13:24-27:

But in those days, following that distress, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time men will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.

2.   Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed (1 Cor. 15:51,52).NOTE: The rapture is when our bodies will be changed and will occur when the last trumpet is sounded. This event is a also called a “mystery.” 
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 3.   Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction (2 Thess. 2:1-3).NOTE: This teaching is clearly about the rapture for it is described here as “our being gathered to him.” The two major events cited by Paul, which must precede it, have not happened and cannot happen until sometime after the temple is rebuilt and the antichrist is then revealed. Hence, the antichrist will be revealed before the rapture and the saints will face him.
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4a. The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.” And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying: “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great—and for destroying those who destroy the earth” (Rev. 11:15-18).NOTE: The seventh trumpet is the last trumpet. This is also when God’s wrath begins and the saints are rewarded. Lk. 14:14 says the rewards will be given out at the resurrection of the righteous (or rapture). 

Immediately before the seventh trumpet sounds, we read this about the seventh trumpet:

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4b. But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets(Rev. 10:7).NOTE: The rapture event is a “mystery” in 1 Cor. 15:51,52 and here in Rev. 10:7 (at the last trumpet—the seventh one). This means all that is described during the first six trumpets will be experienced by the last generation of Christians.
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5.   I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years (Rev. 20:4-6).NOTE: The first resurrection (or rapture) will occur after Christians are beheaded for remaining faithful during the time of the antichrist, which includes not taking the mark of the beast. Compare to 2 Thess. 2:1-3. Just like the pieces of a puzzle that fit together and form a clear picture, when these Scriptures are compared it becomes crystal clear that the rapture will occur after the tribulation period and we face the antichrist.

Also related to Rev. 20:4-6 is this passage:

If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints. (Rev 13:10)

Again, this is more evidence that the saints will face the antichrist and this will be before the first resurrection (or rapture). Yes, there will be a rapture (a catching up), as the Bible teaches:

For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever (1 Thess. 4:16,17).

The Bible teaches a post tribulation rapture. It is as it is.

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Dear saint, in the past the children of God have been burned at the stake, ripped apart by wild animals for amusement, beaten to death, etc. Please don’t think you won’t go through similar rough times yourself because you are his child. Don’t be deceived.

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell (Matt. 10:28).

They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death (Rev. 12:11).

A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.” This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus. (Rev 14:9-12)

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Remember also that the tribulation is not the wrath of God, and the tribulation is not seven years in length! It is amazing how some pre-trib rapture people are so adamant about their belief in the timing of the rapture as to state that one is a heretic and/or unsaved if he rejects the pre-trib rapture teaching, but this has actually been taught and some have believed this very thing. May God help them to see the truth. 

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(2 Timothy 2:14 NIV) Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.

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Remember this: A wonderful paradise kingdom is awaiting the overcomer who remains faithful to God, even if he has the privilege to die for Jesus before getting there.

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It is amazing how many ungodly professing Christians  still do think and falsely preach that just cause they had once received Jesus Christ as their LORD and saviour, they can now even  live a self centered life, or cheat, lie, steal, sin deliberately and they next now will face no personal negative repercussions, they will not even lose their salvation..
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Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain terrifying expectation of judgment, and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries.”
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Eternal salvation is only given to the obedient –

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Once made perfect, he [Jesus] became the source of eternal salvation for all who OBEY him (Heb. 5:9). All , people need to get saved and stay saved, which often doesn’t happen! The Christian life is a fight against sin (Heb. 12:4). Sin not only defiles, it can bring a righteous person to his spiritual death. To be worthy of Jesus, you must place him first in your life (even before your family), take up your cross and follow Jesus (Mt. 10:37,38). Only the continual followers of Jesus possess eternal life. Multitudes in our day, who profess to be Christians, only have the faith of demons. They profess Jesus as the Son of God, but live in sin. They do NOT have eternal salvation.

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It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit

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(Rom 13:14 KJV) But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

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BAD PASTORS HAVE LIED TO ME AND HAVE SAID THAT  ONE MAKING  THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST ON ONE S LIFE IS A LIFE TIME EXPERIENCE .. THESE COWARDS OR FOOLISH VIRGINS NEVER MADE A FULL COMMITMENT. AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WHO DO SO NEVER REPENT DAILY OF THEIR SINS STILL. THE ISSUE WAS IS JESUS THE ACTUAL FULL LORD OF YOUR LIFE OR THE DEVIL

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ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE DOCTRINE OF ETERNAL SECURITY IS FALSE and also STILL false is the Rapture doctrine, which was generally the invention of the Plymouth Brethren led by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), the idea that Jesus Christ will return for His true Church just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation in a secret gathering or “catching away” was an important part of Darby’s teaching and by 1860 the “rapture” had made its way to the United States

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/why-is-dispensationalist-theology-false/

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 Now we are saved by grace (Eph. 2:8,9) but we can fall from grace (Gal. 5:2-4). We are justified by faith (Rom. 5:1) but our faith can become shipwrecked (1 Tim. 1:19,20) and cease to exist (Lk. 8:13; Rom. 11:19-23). We are not under the law (Rom. 6:14,15) but if you live according to the sinful nature you will die (Rom. 8:13). Paul taught against legalism (Gal. 5:3,4) but he also taught that no immoral, impure or greedy person has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God (Eph. 5:5-7). We are not saved by works (Eph. 2:8,9) but to reap eternal life and not destruction you must sow to please the Spirit and not the sinful nature (Gal. 6:8,9). God is faithful to us (1 Jn. 1:9; 1 Cor. 10:13) but we must be faithful to him to the very end of our lives to escape the lake of fire or second death (Rev. 2:10,11). God surely loves us (Jn. 3:16; Mk. 10:21; Rom. 8:35-39) but those who inherit the kingdom of God love God (Jam 2:5; 1 Cor. 2:9) and to love God means to obey his commands (Jn. 14:15; 1 Jn. 5:3). We have freedom in Christ (Gal. 5:1) but this freedom is not to indulge the sinful nature (Gal. 5:13; 1 Pet 2:16). God is to be obeyed and feared.

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/let-me-be-clear-eternal-security-is-still-a-very-false-and-unbiblical-teaching/

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NOW WHY OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS IT THAT SOME ARE TRYING SO HARD TO PROVE ETERNAL SECURITY TO OTHERS IF THIS WAS SUCH AN OBVIOUS POINT? WHILE ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE US FROM OUR SINS, ETERNAL SECURITY IS STILL A FARCE, A NEW DOCTRINE OF ONLY  THE LAST 2000 YEARS INVENTED BY THE BRETHREN DISPENSATIONALIST REV JOHN DARBY AS IT HAS NOT EVEN A PART OF CHRISTIANITY THE 1800 YEARS BEFORE THAT NOW TOO

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NEVER MIND YOUR MERE HUMAN ARGUMENTS SHOW HOW MUCH YOU REALLY KNOW THE BIBLE.. QUOTE YOUR APPLICABLE  VERSES THEN.. AS ETERNAL SECURITY IS A BIG DEMONIC LIE.. IF YOU BELIEVE IN IT THE DEVIL HAS YOU POSSESSED NOW AND NOT GOD. THE SAME PERSONS WHO BELIEVE THAT ONE IS ETERNALLY SECURED TEND TO ALSO FALSELY BELIEVE THAT NO CHRISTIAN CAN BE DEMON POSSESSED.. WHAT A MOUTHFUL. YOU CAN SEE WHY THEY DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THEY CAN BE DEMON POSSESSED..

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“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3): For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

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 Philippians 3: 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
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1 Timothy 4: 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
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In the Bible, there are several passages in which God promises us the gift of eternal life, and the Bible also makes it perfectly clear that we can never earn that gift. However, a problem develops when people start to think that they don’t need to show any responsibilities towards God’s gift of salvation. Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. Again, When a righteous [man] doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand” (Ezekiel 3:19-20).

Clearly everyone who’s under God’s grace needs to accept that dreaded word, “responsibility.”

“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?” (Matthew 7:21-22).

”Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils” (1 Timothy 4:1).

”And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book (Exodus 32:33).

”He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels” (Revelation 3:5).

”For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame” (Hebrews 6:4-6).

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And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46).

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I failed to spot any exemptions allowing Christians to ignore God’s warnings:

”Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him” (1 John 3:15).

”This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away” (2 Tim 3:1-5).

”But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (Revelation 21:8).

”For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire” (2 Peter 2:20-22).

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But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat” (1 Corinthians 5:11).

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In America, about 84 percent of its citizens claim to be “Christians,” and a reported 57 percent belong to a church. When asked if they think they’ll be going to heaven, more than 90 percent of Americans believe that heaven will be their final destination.

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Despite this people’s overwhelming optimism, Jesus, in Matthew 7:13-14, said that few would be saved. I’ve been asking people what they believe all my life, and I’ve found a very large portion of society holds to some form of the once-saved-always-saved doctrine.

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The also bizarre argument that the eternal security crowd propagates is the idea that once you decide to become a Christian, you can never change your mind. Once you’re in, there’s no escape. From what Bible did this cultic teaching come? Certainly not the one I’m using.

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The Apostle Peter says in 2 Peter 2:21 that it would “had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” Not only did Peter say that believers can turn away, but he said it would be better for them to not have become aware of something that would end up haunting them throughout all eternity.

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One excuse I hear a lot in an attempt to explain how someone can seem to fall away is the statement that “these people never really believed in the first place.” I have known people who were saved miraculously, yet they fell away. If their salvation wasn’t legitimate, then I’d have to doubt honesty of every of all confessions. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians not only fall away, they admit to doing so cause Jesus did not give them all their wants, desires, needs next too.

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all who believe on Eternal Security agree that salvation is secure for eternity because they truly repented and saved to become a believer sometime in the past even though they act like immoral pigs now too.. Eternal security is not a doctrine on it’s own. It has a supporting doctrine called “Faith Only” doctrine which teaches no works are required. This is primarily because, many of these clearly still Bible ignorant persons they do not properly discern the faith / works mentioned by Paul’s letters and in the book of James. Rom 4:2-5) For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

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Jas 2:21-24) Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

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Eternal security supporters say, A person can be saved (present tense) through faith, not of works, it is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8, 9).

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We need to look into the text carefully and with context. They ignore overlook the next verse esp., verse 10 which says “in Christ”.

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(Eph 2:10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

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But if someone rejects Christ anytime along the way, he will also not receive eternal life.

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(Rom 6:22-23) But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Eternal security supporters say, True faithful converts will never reject Christ. If they reject, they were never truly saved.

Let us see what the scripture say.

(1Tim 4:1) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

(Heb 10:38-39) Now the just shall live by faith: but if [any man] draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

How can someone depart from faith if they had not already in faith? Drawing back from what? Scripture says yes, we can walk away.

 (Matthew 7:19) “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

Passages demonstrating that salvation is conditional upon continued faith:

You were once alienated from God – your very thoughts were hostile towards Him and your deeds were evil. Yet God has now made peace with you through the death of Christ in His physical body so that you may stand before Him as holy, without blemish and free from accusation – [this you will do] if you remain solidly grounded and firmly fixed in the faith, and un-moved from your hope in the gospel . . . Colossians 1:21-23

Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with Him, we will also live with Him; if we persevere, we will also reign with Him. If we disown Him, He will also disown us; If we are faithless, He will remain faithful, for He cannot disown Himself. 2nd Timothy 2:11-13

It is through this gospel that you are being saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you – otherwise you have believed in vain. 1st Corinthians 15:2

We are of [Christ’s] household, if we hold fast to our courage and confidence in this hope. Hebrews 3:6

For we have all become partners of Christ, if we hold fast to our original conviction firmly to the end. Hebrews 3:14

2. Passages that warn us to protect our faith:

Examine yourselves to see whether you still stand steady in the faith. Put your qualifications [as Christians] to the test. Or didn’t you know this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is at home in you – if He’s not, then you are already disqualified. 2nd Corinthians 13:5

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/eternal-security/

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In end-time prophecies America is not specifically named nor Russia

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Mark Blitz was the first to predict the Blood Moon prophecy in 2008, followed by John Hagee in 2014. These Christian ministers claim that a set of four lunar eclipses in 2014 and 2015 represent a sign of the “End of Days.” They had lied..
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Yet another coming soon  ‘prophecy’ about the end of the world comes and goes – but we know, like the proverbial bus, that not just another false one will be along soon, but many more. One of the main  reasons for this predictable yet disappointing event  is that most people do not read personally  even  the Book of Revelation but rely on what others falsely  say about it – The Devil and his followers are   the source of all of these failed forecasts.

“Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”1 Timothy 4:1

Yes in regard to  Judaism,  Dispensationalism, an their  false prophecies , plus  the Holy Spirit Bashers are from the  same source the devil and mere men.

Titus 1: 14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth..

Chris McCann, the leader and founder of the eBible fellowship, an online assembly of Christians based in Philadelphia, predicted the destruction of the earth on Oct. 7 2015. On Oct. 8, he posted a blog stating that he may have been “incorrect.”

Pat Robertson,  executive chairman, and a former Southern Baptist minister, made a prediction in 1976 that the world would come to an end in October or November 1982.

Harold Camping predicted that the world would end on May 21 2011, but it failed to come about. He revised his prediction of the “Spiritual Judgement” and said that the end of the world would occur on Oct. 21, 2011.

Christian authors Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins stated that the Y2K bug would trigger global economic chaos, which the Antichrist would use to rise to power. However, as Jan. 1, 2000 loomed, they changed their minds.

Ronald Weinland, the founder of “The Church of God, Preparing for the Kingdom of God” (based in Cincinnati, Ohio, USA) stated that Jesus Christ would return on May 27, 2012 and the world would end on this day.

Many people think that the end times  biblical prophecies about the antichrist, 666, the end of the world , Israel, Zionism,  the Battle of Armageddon are still  for  the weirdoes, religious fanatics ,  oddballs, extremists, those persons who afraid to face life today, ahead of  them and falsely now do look for an escape from it. The Basic problem here also is not the Bible detailed Prophecies themselves but rather how many people misinterpret them, add their views, and it seems few of them even agree with each others still. In reality even these days many Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what the Bible actually says and because of this they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too.

https://dispensatiionalism.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/69/

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About the future Prophecies about Israel to the Jews, Dispensationalists there are the upbeat prophecies   but in Reality most, or almost all are dismal. That is the Biblical Jewish history, an ongoing testimony to just how bad it was and  can become for the Jewish people, in the Diaspora and in Israel,  “There is now the reality on the ground, becoming increasingly frightening by the day.
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America is not specifically named, although dozens of biblical passages refer to God’s final dealings with “all the nations.” In Haggai 2:7, for example, the Lord foretold through the Hebrew prophet that He would “shake all nations” in the last days. And all people too..
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There is a renewed interest in end-time prophecies, mostly sponsored by people who hate the Church, Christians, even sponsored by people like the Jews and the false Judiazers now too, with the emphasis that America is now in permanent decline— saying that the days of what has been called the American age are numbered, and if we don’t change course, they are coming to an end,” says Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, the author of The Harbinger and senior rabbi at the nation’s largest messianic congregation, the Beth Israel Worship Center in Wayne, N.J. New York Times best-selling author Joel C. Rosenberg tells audiences that America isn’t mentioned in Bible prophecy Rosenberg outlines several potential scenarios he believes could explain why the United States isn’t mentioned in Bible prophecy: The nation—facing $16 trillion in federal debt and $120 trillion in total unfunded obligations—could implode economically, he hypothesizes. Perhaps the U.S. is hit by a surprise nuclear or military attack, blind-sided by a series of terrorist attacks or devastated by an unprecedented spate of natural disasters.
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Some say the same nine harbingers of divine judgment that preceded the destruction of Israel 2,700 years ago are now manifesting in America. America never had a False religion the Jews had replaced with firstly. Funny how most Jews cannot see that they are already in Hell even,, and next will continue to hell..
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Some absurdly say that America could suddenly lose tens of millions of people in the false rapture, triggering any number of cataclysmic events but there will even be no rapture, as this is more Plymouth Brethren lies.. but this is a reality still that you should note God who is Jesus Christ destroyed the Jewish Temple 3 times already and he killed millions of Jews in the process and he will do it again with the new rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. I guess they too just never learn to obey God, but still do their own thing..
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Our Christian Identity IS SOLELY BASED ON JESUS CHRIST AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE JEWS OR OR PAST ISRAEL
 

BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS, who is it? Israel.

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/babylon-the-great-the-mother-of-harlots/

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So, where is the United States in Bible prophecy? The an­swer is that The US not mentioned directly and specifically. The US is covered by general prophecies that relate to all nations, but beyond that, our end time destiny must be a matter of speculation.

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The United States of America is never explicitly mentioned in the Bible. In regard to the end times, the only nation the Bible seems to be concerned with, specifically, is Israel. Revelation does not mention any countries or nations, other than Israel (Revelation 7:4; 21:12). It mentions Babylon (Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21),

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The fact still is that neither America nor the United States are mentioned by name in any Bible prophecy.

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When searching for America in bible prophecy, it’s important to understand that the Bible is a mostly   History book about the bad Jews, where the Jews coninually reblled aagainst God. Prophecies are often given in relation to Jerusalem, Israel.

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The primary source for the history of ancient Jerusalem and Israel is, of course, the Bible. The Old and New Testament is a chronicle of Israel’s repeated failure to obey God, of their refusal to keep His commandments and statutes and for sure not something for Jews to boast about.

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Proverbs 16: 25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/people-who-disobeyed-god-in-the-bible

 

The Sin Of Worshipping The Land Of Israel , Jews

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/03/09/the-sin-of-worshipping-the-land-of-israel-jews/

Keep your eyes on Jesus not the Jewish Antichrist Yeshua

2 Corinthians 11;4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/keep-your-eyes-on-jesus-not-the-jewish-antichrist-yeshua/

Israel will be judged some day by God.. “Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her” (Rev. 18:8).

Russia Is Not Rosh Gog Magog Meschech Or Tubal

To say otherwise is certainly a creative interpretation of scripture and quite a stretch, especially in light of the fact that no consensus exists in Christianity.

The error of the Russian theory arose from the Scofield Study Bible, which identifies Meshech and Tubal with the modern Russian cities of Moscow and Tobolsk. The only basis for this interpretation is the somewhat similar sound of the two words. Thus: Meshech sounds like Moscow, and Tubal sounds like Tobolsk. However, one cannot simply take a word from an ancient Semitic language (in this case, Hebrew) and find a correlation to a modern name from a drastically different language (in this case an early form of Scandinavian) simply because the two words “sound the same.” While this may be convincing to some for the sole reason of phonetics, it is very irresponsible hermeneutics.

“A closer study of these names reveals that Meshech and Tubal are the ancient Moschi/Mushki and Tubalu-Tibareni peoples who dwelled in the area around, primarily south of, the Black and Caspian Seas in Ezekiel’s day. These nations today are in the modern country of Turkey, possibly parts of southern Russia and northen Iran. “Magog today probably represents the former underbelly of the Soviet Union: Kazakhstan, Kirghizia, Uzebekistan, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan. All these are Muslim. Meshech was located near what was known as Phrygia, in central and western Asia Minor (Turkey), while Tubal was located in Eastern Asia Minor (Turkey). So with Meshech and Tubal, we are dealing with portions of modern Turkey. Today this region is all Muslim.

Alos Gomer is in Turkey not Russia or Germany. This is the land of ancient Kimmeria. Gomer, it “refers to the Celtic Cimmerians of Crim-Tartary.” Gomer is well known to the ancient world as Gimarrai of north central Asia Minor (Cappadocia). These people are also known as the Cimmerians. This seems to be the simplest, most obvious interpretation. So Gomer is Gimarra or Cimmeria in Cappadocia. Cappadocia is simply central Turkey, again, another Islamic region.

When Russia stood with Nazi Germany, many concluded that Hitler was the European Antichrist. They were wrong. As soon as Stalin was betrayed by Hitler, Russia fought against Germany. If so many prophecy analysts were wrong then, and they are also wrong again. Prior to the Jewish Bolshevik Revolution in Russia , Christian scholars and historians used to identify the nations of the Magog, Meshech, Tubal and Gomer with the regions of the Caucasus and Turkey.

The Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, citing ancient Assyrian writings, places the location of Magog in the landmass between ancient Armenia and Media – in short, the Republics south of Russia and noth of Israel, comprised of Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Turkestan, Chechnya, Turkey, etc. I agree with all these quotes and I add; these are all Muslim nations.

Magog is specifically referred to as the region of “the land of Magog, chief prince (head or leader of) of Mesech and Tubal” (Ezekiel 38:2). Because Meshech and Tubal are regions of Turkey – Magog must thus be related to Turkey. Otherwise the passage would make little sense. How could Russia be the head over regions of Turkey? It makes better sense to conclude that Gog is a leader from the land of Magog and the leader of Meshech and Tubal, all of which are in Turkey.

Israel in the Middle East is not the real regathering of all Israel spoken of in prophecy. The real regathering will not happen until during the tribulation after Mystery Babylon the Great is destroyed. The nation Israel is in fact a counterfeit, it is really Mystery Babylon the Great.

“I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” (Luke 10:18)

Satan is a counterfeiter. His method of deception is providing counterfeits for all of the major End Times prophecies. For example, Satan wants to deceive the world into worshiping his antichrist. Satan knows that Christians are aware that the Bible warns of an End Times antichrist. Christians are going to be watchful of such. How will Satan convince these Christians that his antichrist is the legitimate messiah? How will he deceive these Bible savvy Christians? Satan will create a counterfeit antichrist. He will then use all of his controlled televangelists and the rest of the Satanically controlled Christian establishment to promote the notion that his counterfeit is, indeed, the real antichrist. Satan will then script out a scenario where his real antichrist (posing at the Messiah) will defeat this fake antichrist. He will then use his puppets to persuade the Christian masses to worship the real antichrist, under the guise that the antichrist was already defeated. Pretty clever huh? He wants people to think, “The antichrist was already defeated, here comes the Messiah to save the day.” In this way, he will trick Christians into worshiping the false Messiah. He plans to make it look like Revelation happens before it actually happens.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. (Matthew 7:13-14)

Now Russia is a country that is 86% Christian according to the CIA World Fact Book. Much of the “Russia is Magog” misinformation was propagated in the US during the Cold War. Russian xenophobia that has been further driven by bad American preachers and televangelists.

Satan lies when he says that the “Gog and Magog” is Russia but Magog, Meschech, and Tubal are references to Russia; are all Turkish nations.

“Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army (Ezekiel 38:15-16)

In the Old Testament, the king of the north has reference to the areas of Syria, Turkey, and Iraq. The word north is used of Syria or the Old Seleucid Empire six times, of Babylon sixteen times, of Assyria one time, and of Iran one time. These are the lands once occupied by Magog, Gomer, Togarmah, Meshech and Tubal.

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In landmark case on Israel and Jewish identity, 25 March 2013 British tribunal says anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism, The case involved a suit brought against an academic union by an Israel-supporting professor who wanted the tribunal to condemn anti-Israel speech as anti-Semitism because, he claimed, an affinity to Israel was an intrinsic part of his and others’ Jewish identity. The case was to have been the culmination of 11 years of pro-Israel activism by [Ronnie] Fraser, a mathematics lecturer who had been fighting against what he saw as a virulently anti-Israel tide, with a distinct tinge of anti-Semitism, rising in the union to which he belongs.
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Alongside him was Anthony Julius, one of the most prominent Jewish lawyers in Britain and a tireless opponent of anti-Semitism. Supporting the two were a cast of witnesses including Jewish and sympathetic non-Jewish activists, academics and politicians….Was the Israeli government involved too? A senior official at Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs recently revealed that, “over the last six months Israel has taken on two (court) cases in partnership with UK Jewry” in fighting Boycott Divestment Sanctions (BDS). This very likely includes Fraser’s case,
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The lawsuit was backed both financially and in terms of considerable research resources by organizations linked to the central British Jewry leadership forums, the Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Jewish Leadership Council.
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The defendants also had their own Jewish supporters. Fifty Jewish UCU [University and College Union] members signed an open letter praising their union and denying that there was any sort of institutional anti-Semitism within its ranks.
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An Employment Tribunal has found in favour of UCU on all ten complaints of harassment brought by a UCU member who opposed the union’s policy on Palestine.
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The claimant had been supported in his claim by leading lawyer Anthony Julius. In giving their reasoning the Tribunal stated that ‘the proceedings are dismissed in their totality’ and ‘we greatly regret that the case was ever brought. At heart it represents an impermissible attempt to achieve a political end by litigious means.’
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The Tribunal also described themselves as troubled by the implications of the claim, stating that ‘underlying it we sense a worrying disregard for pluralism, tolerance and freedom of expression, principles which the courts and tribunals are, and must be, vigilant to protect’.
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While witnesses for UCU were described in the tribunal’s decision as ‘careful and accurate’, some witnesses for the claimant were described as appearing to ‘misunderstand the nature of the proceedings and more disposed to score points or play to the gallery rather than providing straightforward answers to the clear questions put to them’.
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John Mann MP and former MP Denis MacShane were collectively described as giving ‘glib evidence, while testimony of another key witness for the claimant was described as ‘extraordinarily arrogant but also disturbing’.
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UCU general secretary Sally Hunt said: ‘I am delighted that the Tribunal has made such a clear and overwhelming judgement in UCU’s favour. There are many different views within UCU and wider society about Israel and Palestine and this decision upholds our and others’ right to freedom of expression and to continue to properly debate these and other difficult questions.
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‘This has been an extremely difficult period for the UCU staff and members involved in defending the union’s position and I am especially pleased therefore that the Tribunal found our witnesses to be careful and accurate.
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‘The claimant, while unsuccessful, of course had the right to challenge the union in the courts and will be treated with respect within the union as will his views on this question. Now that a decision has been made I hope in turn that he, and others who share his views, will play an active part in the union and its debates rather than seek recourse to the law.
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‘For our part, UCU will look at our own processes to see if improvements can be made in line with the advice given to us within the decision. We remain opposed to discrimination of any kind including anti-Semitism and we will work with energy and determination with all who will work with us to oppose it in the workplace and society at large.’
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The tribunal wrote in its judgment that “a belief in the Zionist project or an attachment to Israel or any similar sentiment cannot amount to a protected characteristic. It is not intrinsically a part of Jewishness.” The Tribunal threw all ten complaints out, most of them because Fraser was found not being harassed (he was merely disappointed — as can happen in politics, or he was not even related to (!) or present at (!) the act of supposed harassment). The complaints were judged to be political discussion in a open society. Not a single fact of anti-Semitism was established. The court (Tribunal) explicitly says that those “Jewish” ties to Israel are not part of Jewish religion or race, so they are not protected by harassment law or discrimination law. They are part of political (free) speech.
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Others have said ” The State of Israel and its illegal activities outside of its Internationally recognized sovereign extent are surely the most divisive issues to have ever been driven between the Jewish people. That the state of the Jewish people and the Zionist movement tries at every step to circumvent and then ignores the Laws, UN Charter and relative conventions which were adopted in large part because of the treatment of Jews under the Nazi regime, should have been setting off VERY LOUD alarm bells long ago That it hasn’t is sadly reminiscent of the influence the Nazis had over the people of Germany”. ” This kind of exposure , with all of the effort Zionism has put into this case for so little reward, raises serious questions about the default Zionist business model. It’s not enough to silence people, destroy their careers or scream antisemitism . There is just too much bad news coming out of Israel for the old crap to work any longer”. ” The insanity of smearing good people with anti Semitism has ruined the Jewish peoples claims to unfairness, and no longer means all that much. It used to. Not any more. ” ” Do these very foolish people realize, or perhaps they do and do not care, what something so very stupid and silly such as this would mean in the future? You could presumably have black folks claiming it’s racist to speak about the state of countries in Africa, people of Irish ancestry, claiming the same about criticism of Ireland, and on and on. “
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and do note this true contradiction between Zionism and Judaism. ” The Talmud says that ever since the beginning of exile, Jews are forbidden to conquer the Holy Land, or to fight wars against the non-Jewish nations. They are also forbidden to take physical action toward their redemption. Thus, according to Jewish law a Jewish state is forbidden to exist. It must be dismantled and the land must be ruled by a non-Jewish government. “
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“Zionists are unmasked as they hide behind the facade of Judaism & true torah Jews. Zionism has no place in a free civil society & in the world of humanity. The time for open debate is now or never! “”An essential motive of Zionism from its beginning was a fierce desire to end the centuries of Jewish weakness, to show the world that Jews would no longer be pushed around, that they’d fight back and prove themselves tougher than their enemies. There was more to Zionism than that. But the “pride through strength” piece came to dominate the whole project. Hence the massive Israeli military machine with its nuclear arsenal.But you can’t prove that you’re stronger than your enemies unless you’ve also got enemies — or at least believe you’ve got enemies — to fight against. So there has to be a myth of Israel’s insecurity, fueled by an image of vicious anti-semites lurking somewhere out there, for Zionism to work” Israel creates it’s own enemies of it’s own choosing s still..
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A Sharp drop in immigration to Israel from America and U.K., as the French immigration beats out American immigration for first time in years, keeps overall new arrivals to Israel steady; U.S. immigrants dropped by 13 percent and from the U.K. by 27 percent. The sharp jump in immigration from France has been attributed to several factors, among them a bad economy. With almost 500,000 members, France has… the largest Jewish population in Europe. The number of new immigrants to Israel from around the world totaled 19,200 in 2013 – up by just more than 1 percent compared with the previous year. As in previous years, the largest group of immigrants this year came from the former Soviet Union, their number totaling 7,520 – a 1 percent drop from the previous year. Immigration to Israel from Latin America grew by more than a third this year to total 924, the majority of these new arrivals coming from Argentina, Peru and Brazil. Immigration from Middle Eastern countries, most of them unidentified, rose by 4 percent to 245. By contrast, immigration from Eastern Europe dropped 8 percent to 270. That is why they need to steal more land. This year’s immigrants were on the whole young and tended to be female. 60 percent of the new immigrants were under 35, with 37 percent between ages 18 and 34, and almost 53 percent were female. . The city that attracted the biggest number of immigrants was Jerusalem, where 2,400 set up base, followed by Tel Aviv, which drew 1,650.
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The British-Israel theory is a dead, God-dishonouring, anti-Scriptural fraudulent and deceptive lie from the pit of hell. It is every one of these things and more.”
“Of course Mormonism and British-Israelism are blood brothers.” The fantasy of an Anglican Israel in a tribal descendancy from the lost tribes of Israel existing today in the English speaking peoples of Europe and America is still nothing but a delusion.,
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Now what is British-Israelism or Anglo-Israelism? It is the doctrine that the Jews are not Israel. That is all a mistake, we are told. Jews are one thing and Israel quite another. It is a doctrine that originated in England, largely surrounding the British people. The doctrine asserts that the Anglo-Saxon peoples are the ten tribes the true Israel. And it is Israel, not the Jews, who will be restored in the millennium. This restored Israel, the Anglo Saxon people, with Jesus Christ seated on the reestablished earthly throne of David as king, will rule the whole world. Anglo-Israelism teaches that the literal throne of David exists today in the throne of the English kings, and when Jesus Christ returns he will simply occupy the throne which the British kings now hold, and have been holding for centuries, for him until he comes, until the millennium commences. That millennium will surround the Anglo-Saxon peoples, not the Jews at all. The Anglo-Saxon peoples of the earth will be gathered together in the millennium, and with Jesus Christ on the throne now held by England’s House of Hanover, they will rule the world. That is not half of it – it is still all utterly false.

It is very interesting to observe how the Anglo-Israelist connects the two. For instance, one of their chief texts for a “scriptural intimation” and “strong historical proof” is Gen. 48:1820: “And Joseph said unto his father, not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head. And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations. And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.”

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And here is the “intimation”—Ephraim should be called “great” and Great Britain is called Great, therefore Great Britain is Ephraim! On the other hand Manasseh must have a place in the picture, so the United States is Manasseh. That is the very hub of their British-Anglo-Saxon-Israel claim—that Great Britain is Ephraim and the United States is Manasseh. But the whole argument is based upon misquotation. The passage does not say that “Ephraim shall be called great”—it says that “his younger brother shall be greater than he”—that is, Ephraim should be “greater” than Manasseh,” which could only mean, according to this theory that England is greater than the United States! Does lend-lease furnish “strong historical proof” on this point? How do Americans like that slant? Really, what might have happened to great Ephraim if little Manasseh had not come to the rescue? He would have been sunk! The theory furnishes very good British propaganda but, without reflecting on the imperial greatness of Britain or the national pride of America, if the glory of either is the hope of Israel it is a mighty poor affair.

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Let it here be definitely stated that neither the British government nor the British people, not even the Church of England, make any claim that Great Britain is Israel. No more so than the United States government lends endorsement or encouragement to the Mormon claim that the original Americans are the ten tribes of Israel. Like Mormonism, therefore, Anglo-Israelism is just another “ism” that needs to be exposed. It is a false theory of late origin, the fallacies of which are manifest when compared with the facts of history and scripture. It is similar in origin to all other late isms and rests on much the same claims.

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About a hundred years ago imposter Joseph Smith made the false claim of having special divine revelations, published a bogus book and Mormonism was born. A few years later Ellen White fell victim to some delusions which she called visions. Her followers thought her revelations were divine, named her their inspired prophetess, published her visions, and Seventh Day Adventism was born. Near the same time ecstatic Mary Baker Eddy found it profitable to dream dreams and to see visions, so she brought forth her system of so called science in the form of a creed called “Science and Health with a Key to the Scriptures,” and “Christian Science,” falsely so called, was born. An obscure person named Richard Brothers who lived in England between 1757 to 1824 is credited with the origination of this farfetched fantasy. He was true to the form of religious fanatics and his movement was strikingly parallel with Joseph Smith and the Mormons. The religious lunacy of these men was about identical in degree, the difference being in the circumstances of Richard Brothers’ commitment to an asylum and Joseph Smith to a jail. In this same era of “visions” and “revelations,” Richard Brothers, in England, just another misguided soul, made himself believe that he was the subject of special revelations, too; and he conjured up the notion that the Anglo-Saxon peoples, not the hated Jews, are the real Israelites and Anglo-Israelism is here. Being a Britisher himself, and fond of the Anglo Saxon idea anyway, it was not hard for Brothers to believe that they are Israel in other words, we are it. Thus Anglo-Israelism was born. That is precisely the way it came into existence, and like Mormonism, Adventism, Eddyism and all other humanisms, it has nothing in history, scripture, or common ordinary sense upon which to stand.

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“I will seek that which was LOST and bring again that which was driven away. “Ezekiel 34:16 “I was not sent but unto the LOST sheep of the House of Israel.” Matthew 15:24 Sending forth the Disciples, He says: “But go rather to the LOST sheep of the House of Israel.” Matthew 10:6

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There is no such thing even as the Ten Lost Tribes. There cannot ever be Ten Lost Tribes lost as they were never lost to God. As they were all represented in Jerusalem at the day of Pentecost. And when these people use false methods of Bible interpretations to justify their lies they must thus do deny most of the Holy Scriptures

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Also Oliver Cromwell is the fellow who let the Jews back into England three hundred years after they had been kicked them out for dishonest business and child murdering of Guy.

Anyway, another crap supported by Cromwell was called next British Israelism which falsely believes the Anglo-Saxon Aryans were considered to be the lost tribes of Israel. These rather puritan nuts bought it and it gave Cromwell the leeway to let the Jews back into England (the same Jews who funded his war against the English King and loyalists in return for being able to be let back into England to Jew away). This movement was a hybrid Jewish sect of race-mixed Jews and gentiles who suck in the odd pure gentile who has been conditioned into Jewish fundamental Christianity at a young age. Hence their strange beliefs and Jewish behaviour.

Do see also
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It is not for you to know the times or the seasons

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Many people think that the end times  biblical prophecies about the antichrist, 666, the end of the world , Israel, Zionism,  the Battle of Armageddon are still  for  the weirdoes, religious fanatics ,  oddballs, extremists, those persons who afraid to face life today, ahead of  them and falsely now do look for an escape from it. The Basic problem here also is not the Bible detailed Prophecies themselves but rather how many people misinterpret them, add their views, and it seems few of them even agree with each others still. In reality even these days many Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what the Bible actually says and because of this they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too. 
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Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. – 2 Corinthians 2:17a
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Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. 
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Jesus kicked out the money changes out of the temple for these wolfs in sheep’s clothing have been a blight on Christianity throughout its history. The strategy of these losers, the false Hirelings, false Prophets, is still their false pursuit of power, fame, money.
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There is the false Dispensationalist  embarrassment about the supernatural, miracles as they pay lip service to the reality of miracles but seem reluctant actually to believe in contemporary miracles, even denying them when they occur. American evangelicalism has largely accommodated to prevalent culture. Whichever way the winds of culture blow evangelicals are quietly swept along. American evangelicals, had over emphasized their false eschatology on the Rapture,  during the 1960s and into the 1970s, decades that corresponded with threats to Israel and fear of nuclear wars, with so many false prophecies most people no longer are interested in it. The Late, Great Planet Earth and “Like a Thief in the Night” and “I Wish We’d All Been Ready.”  and the fear it inspired) so saturated evangelical consciousness that, when the parousia (return of Christ) didn’t happen, many turned away from it. I too am  not the least interested in   “date setting” of the year of the Lord’s return. I will not put a bumper sticker on my car saying “In case of rapture this car will be driverless.” Nor will I review any writings,  books   that engage in “left behind” theology—a kind of fundamentalist Dispensationalist  paranoia about the “Great Tribulation.”  fundamentalists who focus too much attention on the “rapture,” the “Great Tribulation,” and the “Antichrist”   give biblical studies, all Christians a bad name.
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I find it ironic that many like to talk about future prophecies, about “The great and terrible Day of the LORD” and they too often would like mainly to quote old Testament verses on this too.. and yet for some reasons few of these negative preachers like to talk about the Book of Joel. Now why is that.. cause it mentions Pentecost, the Holy Spirit’s outpouring. Joel wrote how the Spirit of God would touch His people, men and women, and they would speak; and all men of the entire world would hear and understand the words of the Holy Spirit of God, and that they would hear it and understand what was said too. This is what Peter said in Acts 2, which had happened on Pentecost Day; and is what Joel wrote that which would happen in the latter days.

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Remember in Joel 1:2-3 how Joel tells the men of Judah to pass this story on from generation to generation, to the time of the end? It is important that you remember because it also pertains to all of us in the “end times”.

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Joel 1: 1 The word of the LORD that came to Joel the son of Pethuel.2 Hear this, ye old men, and give ear, all ye inhabitants of the land. Hath this been in your days, or even in the days of your fathers?3 Tell ye your children of it, and let your children tell their children, and their children another generation.4 That which the palmerworm hath left hath the locust eaten; and that which the locust hath left hath the cankerworm eaten; and that which the cankerworm hath left hath the caterpiller eaten.5 Awake, ye drunkards, and weep; and howl, all ye drinkers of wine, because of the new wine; for it is cut off from your mouth.6 For a nation is come up upon my land, strong, and without number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he hath the cheek teeth of a great lion.7 He hath laid my vine waste, and barked my fig tree: he hath made it clean bare, and cast it away; the branches thereof are made white.  8 Lament like a virgin girded with sackcloth for the husband of her youth.9 The meat offering and the drink offering is cut off from the house of the LORD; the priests, the LORD’S ministers, mourn.10 The field is wasted, the land mourneth; for the corn is wasted: the new wine is dried up, the oil languisheth.11 Be ye ashamed, O ye husbandmen; howl, O ye vinedressers, for the wheat and for the barley; because the harvest of the field is perished.12 The vine is dried up, and the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men.13 Gird yourselves, and lament, ye priests: howl, ye ministers of the altar: come, lie all night in sackcloth, ye ministers of my God: for the meat offering and the drink offering is withholden from the house of your God.  14 Sanctify ye a fast, call a solemn assembly, gather the elders and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the LORD your God, and cry unto the LORD,15 Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.16 Is not the meat cut off before our eyes, yea, joy and gladness from the house of our God?17 The seed is rotten under their clods, the garners are laid desolate, the barns are broken down; for the corn is withered.18 How do the beasts groan! the herds of cattle are perplexed, because they have no pasture; yea, the flocks of sheep are made desolate.19 O LORD, to thee will I cry: for the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness, and the flame hath burned all the trees of the field.20 The beasts of the field cry also unto thee: for the rivers of waters are dried up, and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness.

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Joel literally means, “Jehovah is GOD” and he lived in Judah and prophesied in Jerusalem.(The “Illustrated Bible Dictionary adds, “A citizen of Jerusalem, he spoke often of the priests and their duties [1:9,13-14,16]. For this reason, many scholars believe he may have been a temple prophet. He also had an ear for nature [1:4-7], and included imagery from agriculture and the natural world in his messages. From evidence in the book itself, we can assume that he knew a great deal about Jerusalem, Judah’s capital city, and the rituals associated with Temple worship [2:15]. But he probably was not a priest, since he called upon the priests to go into mourning because of the sins of the nation [1:13].

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Joel prophesied in a time of great turmoil for all the land of Judah. An enormous plague of locusts had stripped the fields of vegetation, destroyed the sheep and cattle pastures, and even the foliage of the trees. In only a few hours, what was once a beautiful and green land became a place of desolation and destruction. Contemporary descriptions of the destructive power of swarms of locusts confirm the picture drawn by Joel. The plague of locusts that Joel describes was the greatest that had been seen until then. All the harvests were lost, including the seeds for the next harvest. Famine and drought scourged the land. People and animals died. In Joel’s eyes, such great devastation had only one explanation: it brought GOD’s judgment.

https://www.facebook.com/thenonconformer/posts/10200373951790525

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It still seems that anything anti Jewish is falsely distorted as being anti-Semitism again. And so is the New Testament, Christians, the apostles, and Jesus Christ now as well.. This is a Jewish lie, hoax.. Well Free speech, Human Rights, freedom of religion and freedom of religious beliefs is still my right for all even for non Jewish persons too.
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1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
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1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.
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2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
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Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

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Revelation 3: 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

THE MESSIANIC JEWISH MESSIAH DIFFERS FROM THE CHRISTIAN JESUS CHRIST Messianic Jews claim that the Jewish messiah is Jeshua not Jesus Christ.. Messianic parrots tend top repeat what theory false teachers taught them as they are clearly still mostly new testament ignorant..
http://lifebyjesus.wordpress.com/2013/10/17/christianity-is-not-about-the-support-for-israel-the-jews/
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Jesus was responsible for the cessation of the Jewish religious practices. Jesus was the first “Christian,” who had come to announce the end of the Torah and Judaism, of Israel as well.  Jesus simply came to fulfill Messianic prophecies contained in the Jewish scriptures, and not to Continue his once Jewishness. Personal Salvation, for all by Jesus Christ  is  achieved without observing the precepts of the Torah that had exclusively applied  only to the Jewish people and which laws they were never able to keep in full  as well. So why would they the Jews want to put Christians under the   false bondages?
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Amongst another one of those big false, Messianic Jews  lies  is“ If in the past many supposed that any substantial attachment by Christians to the observance of Jewish customs essentially vanished after the first generation of Jewish followers of Jesus passed away, it is now conceivable that many Christians remained open and even committed to observing the Torah after 70 CE—the year when the Temple of Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans.”
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In reality  many of the early  History of  Christian works, those the church fathers wrote or preached from the pulpit  have been preserved and they were  mostly  opposed to Judaism and the observance of Jewish custom. . As late as the fourth century of the Common Era, John Chrysostom, was vociferously   convincing  his Christian parishioners in Antioch not to attend services at synagogues and not to observe Jewish festivals .
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For as far as Judaism, Israel, this is what is said in the New Testament.
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Matthew 23

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate

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Luke 13

35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

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Acts 1

20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

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Galatians 4

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/desolate/

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Lies and distortions, taking isolated Bible verses out of context, are major part of the Jewish interpretation of Christianity,  and of Jesus ,  Apostle Paul, and all Christian teachings.. even by the Messianic Jews and most Jews, Muslims even, they do not worship the same God as the Christians do cause they had rejected Jesus Christ as their God.
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Christians and the current non-Christian Jews also do worship different gods , The Jews do not, did not truly honor Christ as the promised Messiah , but are looking for another that will come in his own name . The Talmud itself speaks of absolute mockery and hatred for Christ and Christians.

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YOU ARE NOW A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN AND BUT NOT BOTH FOR BEING JEWISH MEANS FOLLOWING THE JEWISH RELIGION SOLELY AND NOT THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION.

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It’s important to understand that under the New Covenant, the New Testament, the second coming for the church doctrine is an admission that Jesus will not meet the Jewish Messianic criteria, expectations as the Christian Church alone itself is now the true Israel replacement and inherits all he Old testament messianic promises..

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No Jews or non Jews never the less should still continue to observe the Torah after embracing Jesus as their Messiah.
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 The Christian Church is not defined solely by the 4 Gospel of Matthew, Luke and John but is also clearly  more defined by the Book of Acts and Apostle Paul’s writings.
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Matthew 28:19–20, which appears only in Matthew: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you.”  Does not include the Torah , or the Noahide laws. Noahide Laws. This  false rabbinic teaching posits that Gentiles need not observe the 613 commandments of the Torah but only abide by seven universal, ethical laws.

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Many of the Jewish people.. play word and sound assimilation’s to arrive at their faulty conclusions . the bible warns of “ANOTHER JESUS.” the context is that Paul is making reference to someone who is called “Jesus” (Yeshua). But is someone who has a different IDENTITY, he is not the same in substance, he is not God in the flesh and therefore is not the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE (John 14:6). It is more important to have the MEANING of the word, when translating a word from one language to another, than it is to make sure everyone SPEAKS or pronounces it the same in all languages. The “NAME” means to describe one’s identity, it is representative of either the totality of ones being or specifically ones attributes or characteristics. “God’s name …is a symbol of [His] nature, character, and person… The name of the Lord is the manifestation of His character…it is synonymous with the Lord Himself.” However there is some validity to knowing Gods name in Hebrew but it is not a matter of salvation. Less someone wants to commit to the false saying the whole Christian Church has been unsaved and only a few Hebrew speaking persons could grasp this truth. God is infinitely more concerned about the TRUTH being spoken, and the reasons it is spoken. Than He is with HOW his name is enunciated by the different people of the world!
http://www.letusreason.org/sacna%202.htm

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Messianic Jews are false antichrist still..  Can you be a practicing Jew and also believe that Jesus is the messiah? The customary answer is no. Though Christianity began in Jerusalem , all Christians came to understand themselves as people who by definition were not Jewish and who believed that Christianity had “superseded” Judaism — that is, “taken its seat” of favor before God. While the early church was made up of both Jews and gentiles who professed faith in Jesus as Messiah and Lord the early church was anti-Jewish. To accept Jews into the church as Jews who follow the Torah’s instructions for observant Jewish life even as they live in fellowship with Christian Jesus-believing gentiles, would represent a false unacceptable return to Judaism.. Christianity and rabbinic Judaism next emerged as rival claimants to continuity with Israel after the destruction of the Jewish temple in 70 AD.. In the case of Messianic Jews, their failure to leave their ongoing Jewishness is what damns them to hell.

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YAHWEH YESHUA His real name is still Jesus Christ, as the New Testament was written in Greek only , Jesus Christ a translation of his Greek name when he was born a Jew, and he only spoke Greek as the Romans forbid Aramaic and Hebrew.. burned all the Jewish AND ARAMAIC books, libraries too and the only language spoken was Greek and Hebrew was not spoken for the next 2000 years even till 1948 .. ”
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Jewish believers in Yeshua? but there is No such thing.. as Jewish believers in Yeshua as there are only Believers in Jesus Christ.. If someone born to a Jewish mother who embraces Jesus and practices Christianity, then that person is NOT now a ‘Jew for Jesus’. They now are either a New Testament Christian, or a Old testament Jew.. The ‘messianic Jews’ now are just another sect within Judaism. They are not CHRISTIAN. Messianic Jews also undeniably tend to tell half truths, they do falsely and too often now take New testament verses out of Context, falsely do promote a non Christian Gospel as they basically are still AntiChrists … Sad..
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It should be of note, interest to all Bible students, that the Christian Church, the bride of Christ, the final Jewish seed, was not mentioned directly in the old Testament but only in the new Testament. In the New testament the Jews are no longer the Chosen ones too, the Christians are.

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It may surprise you to discover that the New Testament never uses the term ‘chosen’ to describe the Jewish people. It is only used of those who follow Jesus Christ now .
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(Eph 1:4 KJV) According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

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There is a VERY FALSE popular movement to replace the name of God, Jehovah, with the name Yahweh. This is being pushed especially hard among those in the Identity and Christian patriot movements, and especially among the alternative news community prominent on the shortwave, which some Christians perceive of as being a source of more purer form of broadcasted Christianity.
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Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
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This movement to alter God’s name with absolutely nothing that resembles scriptural, textual, or linguistic support, has misled huge numbers of Christians into denying the Bible and accepting the work of Bible-scoffing atheists who have dominated the academic field of biblical studies since the mid-nineteenth century. I even hear people who claim to be King James Bible supporters use this perversion of the name of God. If they deny what the KJV says about the name of God, then they do not believe the KJV is God’s word. In fact, they do not believe that the Hebrew Old Testament is God’s word either, because it clearly says Yehovah, which becomes Jehovah in English pronunciation, and pronounced He’ova in Spanish. If one can change that word simply on a whim, which is all the Yahweh spelling is, then they can deny the spelling of absolutely any other word in the entire Hebrew Bible.

http://av1611.com/kjbp/ridiculous-kjv-bible-corrections/Yahweh-Jehova-YHVH.html
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Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. Jews will always be far from any right to the the promise land because of all their own unrepentant SINS, ACTS, even the blood shed of many others that they have killed from generations to generation even the shed blood of Jesus. (Mat 23:38 KJV) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. The Jews alone have by their return to Israel have usurped the authority of the Lord God of Hosts Himself, who alone has the right to give and take away the land of Israel as so far there is no New testament word confirming any of it’s return.. …the Land belongs now to Jesus Christ alone and his bride the Church… it is all his, he had undeniably bought it with his life and redeemed it alone! The New Testament Scriptures makes it now certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for Israel as many Jews, some professing Christians falsely hoped, believe it would happen again
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Zechariah 14:3-4: “Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.[3] And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.”

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It is the Lord Jesus that will defeat Satan the Antichrist, and His army of that day. Jesus Christ will come and His feet will stand on the “Mount of Olives” officially claiming all earth as his poached land, and now confirming that the judgment of the world will come, and end in this “Valley of Jehoshaphat”.

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2 Peter 3
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
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Revelation 17
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
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Daniel 8:
23    And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24    And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25    And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
26    And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
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2 Thessalonians 2:
1    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2    That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3    Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4    Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5    Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6    And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7    For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8    And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9    Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10    And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11    And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12    That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13    But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14    Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15    Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16    Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17    Comfort your hearts, and establish you in every good word and work.
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Daniel 12:
1    And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2    And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3    And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
4    But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
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Acts 1
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
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SEE ALSO

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/babylon-the-great-the-mother-of-harlots/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/jews-israel-arabs-and-jesus-christ-the-bible/

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/11/12/the-new-covenant-is-not-a-continuation-of-the-old-testament/

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/Judaism/

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/in-false-desperation/

PROCLAIMING THE EMPOWERMENT of THE HOLY SPIRIT

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Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly…. 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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But Jesus Christ did much more than that for you and me now.. He left us His Holy Spirit empowerment so we can live fully the Christian life and not rather be always defeated by the devil!
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1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, …we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
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2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Romans 8:11 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
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(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.;
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Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
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The Christian life is  personally impossible,   it is impossible without the Holy Spirit –on our own. Trying to live the Christian life by your own efforts is like a ship trying to sail on dry land…;
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John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
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John 16:7 “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.”

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“You will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you” (Acts 1:8).

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Though all Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, not all Christians are filled (directed and empowered) by the Holy Spirit and why is that? Well mainly it is their ignorance of the New Testament  teaching still…It is the Holy Spirit who renews, transforms, redeems  our perceptions, beliefs, emotions, and physical bodies and who gives us the wisdom, discernments, insights. as “I have been crucified with Christ: and I myself no longer live, but Christ lives in me. And the real life I now have within this body is a result of my trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me” (Galatians 2:20).;   Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15    Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:16    (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)17    Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. Acts 8:14 -17  

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All believers are indwelled by the Holy Spirit; however, not all believers are firstly now “filled” with the Spirit and His power, otherwise God would not have to command us to be. The lack of spiritual power is all too evident among believers. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is Not an option. If you have already received Christ, in Ephesians 5:18 God commands all believers to be filled with the Spirit; therefore, we know it is God’s will for everyone. Again it is really a command from God and really not an option.

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The Holy Spirit is real and he can be real to you too.. Jesus Christ himself also was baptized with the Holy Spirit. The “baptism of the Holy Spirit” is given to those persons who obey God, follow after and do his will.. it requires our initial personal involvement, willingness, obedience. The “baptism of the Holy Spirit” involves being covered with, immersed in, empowered by the Holy Spirit. Baptism of the Holy Spirit is a term used to describe a movement of the Spirit upon and/or within a believer usually at salvation but often after the person is saved. Actually it is likely that many people accept Jesus Christ intellectual but do take some time to make him fully the personal lord of their life next. We should be careful to not confuse Baptism in the Holy Spirit with the various other ministries of the Holy Spirit.
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The filling of the Holy Spirit is how He empowers and controls us (Acts 4:31; Ephesians 5:18). The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is God the Holy Spirit taking up permanent residence in our lives (John 14:17; Romans 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19; 1 John 4:4). The sealing of the Holy Spirit is God marking us as His permanent possession (Ephesians 1:13-14). Baptism in the Holy Spirit is related to these other ministries of the Holy Spirit, but at the same time, it is separate from them. Have you been Baptized with the Holy Spirit? If you’ve repented of your sins and asked Christ to be your Lord and Master, then He responds with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit; “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water (hudati), but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit (en pneumati hagio)…. But you will receive power (dunamis) when the Holy Spirit comes on (epiechomai) you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” (Acts 1:4, 5, 8; see 11:15-16);
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And there are several Scriptural steps are most certainly initially involved.
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1:  In preparation for The Filling of the Spirit, Confess known sin and seek and receive forgiveness for all sin even by reliance on the  related completed work of Jesus Christ on the cross for our sins. The Scriptures teach that God works in those who lead a humble, broken, contrite heart.
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2 In further preparation for The Filling of the Spirit, one must become a confessed believer in Jesus Christ as Son of God who has made the full payment for our sins. Without this act, an acclamation of faith, one cannot be filled with the Holy Spirit, for biblically, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and of Christ.
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Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.  Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
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3: Read examples of people being filled with the Holy Spirit in the new Testament. Such as Acts2:4, Acts10:44-46 and Acts19:1-6  – Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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4: Pray for,  Desire, seek  to be fully controlled by the Holy Spirit, to be under the full influence of the Spirit or to be constantly led by God..  Personally Claim the promises of God that he will reveal himself and fill you  with the Holy Spirit. .John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. Acts 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.  Luke 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? 
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By faith claim the fullness of the Holy Spirit, according to: God’s command  Be filled with the Spirit. “And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit” (Ephesians  and His Promise – He will always answer when we pray according to His will. “And this is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests which we have asked of Him” (1 John 5:14, 15)

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Pray “Dear Father, I admit I am a sinner, I do need You. I acknowledge that I have been directing my own life and that, as a result, I have sinned against You. I thank You that You have forgiven my sins through Christ’s death on the cross for me. I now invite Christ to again take His place on the throne of my life. Fill me with the Holy Spirit as You commanded me to be filled, and as You promised in Your Word that You would do if I asked in faith. I now thank You for directing my life and for filling me with the Holy Spirit.

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Next your life will demonstrate more and more of the anointing of of the Holy  Spirit ( acts 10:38)   and you will reflect, be more and more conformed to the image of Christ (Romans 12:2; 2 Corinthians 3:18). Your prayer life and study of God’s Word will become more meaningful. You will experience His power in witnessing (Acts 1:8). You will be prepared for spiritual conflict against the world (1 John 2:15-17); against the flesh (Galatians 5:16-17); and against Satan (1 Peter 5:7-9; Ephesians 6:10-13). You will experience His power to resist temptation and sin (1 Corinthians 10:13; Philippians 4:13; Ephesians 1:19-23; 2 Timothy 1:7; Romans 6:1-16).;

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Why aren’t more Christians filled with the Spirit?
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Simply because of unsubmitted, un confessed  sin. We choose to disobey god. This can take the form of pride: doing and wanting things our way. Living a self centered life, and We don’t give God control of our finances; we’ve worked hard for our money and it’s ours now. We don’t give God control of our relationships, associates, choices too;. We don’t give God control of our personal morality; that’s nobody’s business but our own—not even God’s. (Proverbs 3:34).  [God] mocks proud mockers but gives grace to the humble”  Proverbs 29:  23    A man’s pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.24    Whoso is partner with a thief hateth his own soul: he heareth cursing, and bewrayeth it not. 25    The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe. 26    Many seek the ruler’s favour; but every man’s judgment cometh from the LORD. 27    An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked. Or the “Fear of man will prove to be our  snare…” (Proverbs 29:25). Is there something that God wants you to do, but you haven’t done it because you’re afraid of what people will think?
BEING RELIGIOUS AND/OR KNOWING THE BIBLE IS NOT THE SAME AS KNOWING PERSONALLY GOD, JESUS CHRIST, THE HOLY SPIRIT.. GOD, JESUS CHRIST, THE HOLY SPIRIT;
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God the father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are all alive, real, individuals who care about you personaly too and desire now to fellowship with you too if you do now meet their requirements, conditions as stated in the New Testament. Or are you falsely still relying in your own flesh in following Jesus Christ, God, the Holy Spirit? … Did you know that the Bible teaches us that human nature will always deny Jesus Christ. We all first must come personally to Jesus Christ in order to receive the baptism of Holy Spirit as well.. Now without the Holy Spirit of Jesus in ypour life, heart, you can only know, experience, darkness, demons and not God.
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Our boldness comes from being with Jesus, the Holy Spirit and our knowledge, application of God’s word. We can’t change one thing about ourselves or others without the SPIRIT of GOD.
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(Luke 4:1 KJV) And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,;
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Now still there are much too many imposter, pretenders, non Christians. Thus we all do still do need to know as to what is a real Christian?
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There is major ,major misunderstanding even in the church as to what it really means to be a Christian. We need to look at what the Bible itself says here firstly too.. To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing? (Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.;  The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One, Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and  the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”;
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Generally non-believers, non Christians  are clearly still  totally ignorant the work of the Holy Spirit. One clear way to see if a person is a real Christians is to see if they know about the Holy Sp[irit personal, talk and preach about him as well.   (Rom 8:14 KJV) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.;( Luke 12:10 KJV) And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.; Apostle Peter next told all of his  convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”. Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too…and so now the devil even  uses any of his followers, even those in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the truths about God, Jesus, The Holy Spirit, the Bible too.;
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Many professing Christians are still not real Christians now, these days too, because Most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says nor have they been taught by the Holy Spirit firstly, not even many preachers.
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The  baptism of the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , Tongues, Prophets, Apostles, Miracle workers, tithing   have become unarguably the most neglected,  misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the news media, in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, especially in the fundamental evangelical religious circles and now all even because many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not unto God;   As they clearly do not have God’s understanding of these subjects cause they do not have the Holy Spirit.. so they are none of His for a start, they have let unrepentant sin continue in their lives still too. It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy spirit filled, those carnal, people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, but we all can still see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice for what it is , demonic. It’s now is also a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.” Unlike the fundamental evangelicals Christians  the Pentecostal Christians  tend to rightfully  believe that one’s Salvation by Jesus Christ is still  a continuing process.  Very few would say that you are eternally saved after you receive Jesus.
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While   a person is “Saved” upon confessing one’s sin. accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and  the infilling of the Holy Ghost as  evidenced by speaking in other tongues, that person will still really not go further in the Kingdom of God now unless they do also sow good things, apply the Word of God to their own lives, continue to pray, and to apply holiness to their daily lives, and continually, daily learn to live after Jesus. In other words, if all you do is get saved, baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost, but don’t live a real Godly, holy Spirit filled separated life, then your salvation becomes definitely become world, satanic, sinful,  stagnant, and unless you do something to fix that stagnation, you are very  likely to backslide, or walk away from God and end up in hell. You always have a free will, It is your choice, you reap what you sow.
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So Keeping your Salvation means walking with  God, talking to him, knowing and following solely after His will,  being continually filled by the Holy Spirit and this in prayer, thus living righteously by  and   living  a separated life form the ungodly world, persons. If you do not know the Holy Spirit at all it is for sure you are not a real Christian. The anointing is sacred, the anointing is the Holy Spirit, and all believers in Christ must have the anointing of the Holy Spirit. We here must be careful what we say about our anointed  brothers and sisters in Christ.;
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(1 Chronicles 16:22-24 NKJV) Saying, “Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm.” {23} Sing to the LORD, all the earth; Proclaim the good news of His salvation from day to day. {24} Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.”;
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(1 Corinthians 3:1-3).  “A natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised” (1 Corinthians 2:14). But “He who is spiritual appraises all things…We have the mind of Christ”  (1 Corinthians 2:15).;
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Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too… and so now the devil uses any of his followers, those in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the Bible truths.   Time also more Christians read their Bible instead of the fictional books, bad commentaries now too. Really! So they will not end up falsely Denying the present role, works of the Holy Spirit, and see the need for their own tangible good works by faith, and deal with their still too often unloving acts towards the others.
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Matthew 10”22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
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Jesus did not say you as a real partnering Christian might be, could be hated, he said you will be hated.. especially by both the Jews, and the Unrepentant sinners;
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But the still Carnal Christians still cannot experience the Abundant and Fruitful Christian Life  Carnal Man (One who has received Christ, but who lives in defeat because he is trying to live the Christian life in his own strength. “And I brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but as to carnal men, as to babes in Christ. I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able, for you are still carnal. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshy, and are you not walking like mere men?”;
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Also “I believe that one of the biggest reasons that the body of Christ hasn’t made a greater impact on our generation today is because of our failure to operate in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Without a doubt, Jesus and the first apostles used the gifts like a bell, calling men to their message and confirming that God was truly the One speaking through them”. Andrew Wommack

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Hebrews 2:3-4 says, “How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?” The Lord bore witness to the accuracy of their message through miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit.

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In Mark 16:17-18, Jesus said all true believers would flow in the miraculous: “And these signs will follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”

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The vast majority of preaching  and Christian living done in the name of the Lord today is still really without the power of the Holy Spirit manifest through the gifts of the Holy Spirit. This was,  is not the way the Lord Jesus Christ had intended it to be.for sure..No one can have an effective life or ministry without the power of God’s Holy Spirit working in him or her. This fact can’t be argued by anyone who truly believes the Bible is God’s Word. The Scriptures are replete with proof that it is “not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the LORD of hosts” (Zech. 4:6). It is  true that the Holy Spirit is still willing to move as in biblical times  then there is no excuse for living lives so far removed from that great  victory portrayed in God’s Word.

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If a Christian’s life isn’t full of the personal supernatural, it’s a pretentious one rather. Now  the gifts of the Holy Spirit are always flowing.as  God doesn’t turn them “on” and “off.” We are the ones who turn them  “on” or “off.”   The Lord Jesus Christ  is always ready to flow through us in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. No one has received everything that the Holy Spirit has for them. Therefore, the Lord is always seeking to release more to us through His supernatural gifts. Whenever we put ourselves in a mode to be His channel, His gifts will flow

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Most  churches have fallen away from ministering in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. The gifts that operate even in in most “Spirit-filled” churches are simply words of exhortation or prophecy. There is much more even here . that should be manifested.

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1 Corinthians 12:31, “But covet earnestly the best gifts.”

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1 Corinthians 14:1, “Desire spiritual gifts.”

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 You do also still  have to seek these gifts with all your heart (Jer. 29:13).  Thhs that  also includes the nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit and  the Spirit of Truth, Holiness, Wisdom, of the Fear of the Lord, of Counsel, Spirit of Grace and the Spirit of Knowledge. 

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There are nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit. “For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing(s) by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:” (1Corinthians 12:8-10)

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There are still nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit today even.  So seek after and learn to sue them all, The nine Gifts are often separated into three groups.

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The first group is commonly referred to as the Power Gifts.  They are called the Power Gifts because they DO something.  They are:  The Gift of Faith, the Gifts of Healings and the Working of Miracles.

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The second group is commonly referred to as the Revelation Gifts.  These are Gifts that REVEAL something.  They are:  The Word of Wisdom, the Word of Knowledge and the Discerning of Spirits.

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The third group is commonly referred to as the Utterance Gifts.  This is because they SAY something.  They are:  The Gift of Prophecy, the Gift of Tongues and the Gift of Interpretation of Tongues.

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Of course you can expect the devil and his followers to try to mislead you, distract you, turn you away from your seeking.. just perish on forward in it.The truth is that denial of the Holy Spirit’s  ministry and power of the Holy Spirit is the devil’s  theology along with his other lies now too such as that alcoholics are not responsible for their actions, depression is a chemical imbalance, and homosexuality is genetic.

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No true Christian who has received Jesus Christ as lord and their personal savior now  can say that they now have no gift of the Spirit from God. God has given all believers gifts; some have several but also now everyone can be equipped, completed, with these 9 gifts. These 9 non optional gifts of the Spirit are given not solely  for the believer usage  but are to be used  for the Body of Christ. It is to make the Body complete. These gifts are intended for the church to edify it, to strengthen it, to feed it, to exhort it, to encourage it and to have the Body of Christ empowered to do the work of Christ. These gifts are always to exalt Christ, to witness of God’s  power, to build up the Body, and to work in the Body of Christ  world wide too;

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Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

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Hebrews 13: 8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

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Acts 1:8, “But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”

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My life also wasn’t always  perfect  and still isn’t now. But receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit opened up a whole new, dynamic relationship with the Lord  My life was transformed instantly. Before the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I was in fear; afterward, I was as bold as a lion (Prov. 28:1). and noext now  It wasn’t me living anymore, but Christ was living through me.

Luke 11: 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

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Matthew 7:7,  “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:”

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Part of this package means receiving  by faith continually and freely at all times  also the fruit of the Holy Spirit

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Galatians 5: 16    This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17    For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18    But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19    Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20    Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21    Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23    Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24    And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25    If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

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Each and every Born again, Spirit filled Christian is clearly a part of “… the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. And God has placed in the church first of all apostles (no longer in this church age), second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? I Cor. 12:28-31 .

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Now as you pursue your own Ministry and earnestly desire the greater gifts“ I also now do pray you not only seek after all of the Holy Spirit gifts,lacking in none of them too  and that  you will utilize them all next  to the strengthening of the whole Body of Christ, of  which you are a part.

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We do not emphasize the baptism in the Spirit and speaking in tongues to a greater extent than all of the other essential New testament doctrines such as the New Birth from Above (salvation), dying to self, the Lordship of Jesus Christ,  and water baptism. All the teachings of the New Testament even about  tongues have  the same priority as it is in Scripture.
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There are now many, many Christians who give testimony to a new, dynamic and personal, life-changing experiences as a result of their  relationship with the Holy Spirit 

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(Mark 16:17 KJV) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall s…peak with new tongues;18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. (Mat 10:1 KJV) And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.(Luke 10:19 KJV) Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. (Luke 12:5 KJV) But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him (Acts 1:8 KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (Rom 15:19 KJV) Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ. (1 Cor 2:4 KJV) And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: For God expects us all personally also to live the full Gospel… for there needs to be a real personal evidence, sign of it in our own life continuously too..
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The major Biblical problem with Dispensationalism

  All of the Biblical  Scriptures are clear and understandable and profitable for all things pertaining to life and godliness if one gets the right interpretation from the Holy Spirit and not mere men as rather too often is still the case.

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/all-doctrines-have-to-be-studied-by-the-help-of-the-holy-spirit/

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DISPENSATIONAL THEOLOGY: HOW DANGEROUS IS IT?

DISPENSATIONALISM: A HERETICAL TEACHING.

DISPENSATIONALISM IS ANOTHER GOSPEL. THERE IS A GREAT NEED IN DISCERNING TRUTH FROM THE DISPENSATIONAL ERROR. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOSPEL. ONE GOSPEL, OF LOVE, NOT A JEWISH ONE TOO.

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Dispensationalism is a new recent  demonic , Unchristian doctrine never accepted by the majority of Christians

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/

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The Evangelical Dispensationalists do still tend to be trying to earn a great spot in heaven by their own good works, saving others, by following the teaching of men, rather an evil spirit, and not the Holy Spirit rather.

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/

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“The major Biblical problem with Dispensationalism is its teaching from Ezekiel’s temple vision that there will be a fourth temple built in Jerusalem with a priesthood and blood sacrifice while Jesus is reigning on the throne. That contradicts the message of Hebrews that Christ’s sacrifice was final, and that to continue animal sacrifice is an abomination and rejection of the only blood that removes sin.”  The false Jewish Christians continued in the way they had been instructed until Christ removed the Temple. He gave the wicked generation 40 years , a significant number, to repent (Spring AD 31 to August AD 70), and then Titus destroyed the Temple – at Christ’s command. John the Baptist and Christ both predicted the destruction of Judea.

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“The writer of Hebrews 9:11-15 points out something very important:
11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. 12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. 13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

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9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

The author of Hebrews says that the sacrificial system is over. Done. Finished.

It would be blasphemous to reinstitute the sacrificial system.”

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There has been much bad ink spilled over the issue and a massive contradiction of Scripture and are there even any dispensationalist that are kind, gentile, peaceful? It seems that they are too often are still mean spirited to boot. It sounds like me that one is a dispensationalist because they do not want to accept the Bible at it’s word. Instead, a dispensationalist has attempted to invent false ways around things that disturb their falsely Jewish centered views and should immediately give one pause to believe in this modern theory of the False Doctrine of Dispensationalism. Are you willing to admit that the DISPENSATIONAL leaders themselves had practiced a “massive Christian contradiction” in their leadership of the Church?

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Animal sacrifices after Christ’s death is so abhorrent to Christians and blasphemous to God, the false Jewish leaders in the Christian likely tried to offer sacrifices at the Temple right up until its rightful destruction in AD 70.

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 Also a main difference of interpretation by the dispensationalists  is that it is man or Jew centered, not Christ centered, rather where  is the location of Christ’s throne during his Millennium reign – is it on earth in Old Jerusalem, or is it at the right hand of God the Father in Heaven? in the New Jerusalem.  http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/

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“Premillennialism is the notion that Jesus will return to this earth before he commences a one thousand-year reign on David’s throne in Jerusalem.

Premillennialism, and its theological sister, dispensationalism, are  quite erroneous in that they repudiates numerous fundamental Bible truths. Further, it is exceedingly dangerous in that it offers a false hope to Jews.   This “hope” has been grossly misplaced. 

Almost two thousand years before the birth of Christ, God had  selected Abraham to be the founder of a new nation. It was declared that through him a seed would come by whom all peoples of the earth would be blessed (cf. Genesis 12:1-3; 22:17-18). Several centuries later, Abraham’s offspring were delivered from an era of bondage in Egypt. They were given a special law and ritualistic system of worship which were designed to separate them from the other nations of the world (Exodus 19:5-6; cf. Ephesians 2:14). All of this, of course, was in view of the coming Messiah (cf. Galatians 3:24-25; Hebrews 9:1-10). For some fifteen hundred years the Lord God attempted to cultivate the nation of Israel in preparation for the first advent of the Lord Jesus. It was a constant struggle to get the Hebrews to maintain a semblance of fidelity. They grossly violated the law, frequently went after “strange gods,” and they viciously persecuted the prophets that Jehovah sent to call them to repentance. Jeremiah summarized the history of the Israelite people when he charged that they did “nothing” of all that God  commanded them (32:23). Because of the accelerating rebellion of the nation, consummated by the murder of Jesus Christ, God rejected the Hebrew people. Inexcusably, the Jews rejected their own Messiah; accordingly, Jehovah repudiated that nation and determined to scatter them as dust (Matthew 21:44). Thus, in the providence of God, the Roman armies came against Palestine in A.D. 70, and Judaism was destroyed (cf. Matthew 22:7; 24:1-34); the Jewish “vessel” was smashed, and it cannot be put back together (cf. Jeremiah 19:11). According to Josephus, some 1.1 million Hebrews were slaughtered, and thousands were taken into slavery. All Jewish records were lost in that holocaust. Today, there is not a single Jew who knows his tribal ancestry (McClintock and Strong 1969, 771). The physical nation of Israel is dead. The “Jews” that make up the State of Israel today (less than twenty-five percent of the world Jewish population) cannot legitimately be called a “nation.”

As a consequence of Israel’s rejection of the Messiah, God has replaced physical Israel with a new nation, spiritual Israel. Today, the “Jew” is not one who is so physically, but one who is so inwardly, i.e., spiritually (Romans 2:28-29). In this age, those who submit to the gospel plan of redemption—whether Jew or Gentile (Romans 1:16)—become children of God, and thus are constituted as the true “seed of Abraham” (Galatians 3:26-29).”

“It is still false  to suggest that God had  intended to perpetually favor one nation over all others. Such a notion is at variance with the multiple Bible affirmations which assert the universal love of God, and his just, impartial disposition with reference to the whole human family (cf. Genesis 12:3; Psalm 145:9; Acts 10:34-35). God’s initial selection of the Hebrew people, and the acquisition of the land of Canaan, was preparatory to the coming Christ. Jehovah employed the Jewish nation as a medium for the introduction of Christ into the world. Now that the Messianic mission has been accomplished, the role of “national Israel” no longer exists (cf. Galatians 3:24-25). That “middle wall of partition,” designed to isolate Israel from the nations, has been broken down (Ephesians 2:14). It was abrogated at the cross (Colossians 2:14). From the divine viewpoint, old physical Israel has passed away. It has been superseded by a new Israel.

The genealogy of Luke 3 makes it quite clear that Jesus is the true Son of Adam, and this accords with the use of the title “Son of Adam” in the Gospels. Jesus is the “beloved Son” with whom God is pleased (Luke 3:22). Indeed, Luke follows this baptismal declaration with his genealogy showing that through Adam, Jesus is the Son of God.

Jesus is looked upon as both the ideal Adam and the ideal Israel—that is, He is the people of God, the Seed of Abraham to whom all promises were made (see Gal. 3:16). Jesus as the Son of Adam (Son of man) accomplishes that which Adam failed to do; and likewise, as the true Israel, He does what Israel failed to do. Thus the temptation narratives show the reversal of Satan’s conquest of Adam in the garden and of Israel in the wilderness.

If Jesus is the true people of God, the true Adam and the true Israel, all the prophecies concerning the restoration of Israel to be the people of God must have their fulfillment in Him. So Paul, preaching the gospel of Christ, was addressing himself to the hope of Israel (Acts 26:6, 7; 28:20). The consistent testimony of the apostle is to Christ as fulfiller (see 2 Cor. 1:20). We may not seek the true Israel outside of Christ or look for her restoration apart from the gospel. To become one of the people of God, one must be incorporated into Christ by faith (John 1:12; 2 Cor. 5:17; etc.).

 Israel’s hope was to return to Zion, the place of God’s dwelling among His people. The New Testament must tell us where Zion is if we would discover the new temple and the ruling son of David. Because Jesus is the Son of David to whom rule is given, Zion is where He is—i.e., in heaven. The kingdom of God cannot be separated from the presence of Jesus (Heb. 12:22).

As far as the New Testament is concerned, Old Testament prophecy about the rule of God and the temple is fulfilled in the gospel. The resurrection of Jesus is not only the restoration of the temple (John 2:19-22), but also the re-enthronement of the Davidic king (Acts 2:30, 31). The true temple is in heaven, where Jesus reigns now (Acts 2:33, 36; Heb. 8:1, 2). While believers are separated from their Lord (they are on earth, He is in heaven), there is another temple created by the Holy Spirit, who unites believers with the ascended Lord (2 Cor. 6:16; Eph. 2:11-22; 1 Peter 2:4-8).

The New Testament develops Stephen’s assertion that God’s temple is not made with hands (Acts 7:47-50). It is, in fact, the heavenly dwelling to which temple prophecy ultimately points, and there the Eden typology is answered in the face-to-face relationship which requires no symbolic temple, for God is the temple (Rev. 21:22).

All the biblical promises find their fulfillment in Jesus Christ. Every element of the Old Testament’s unfolding revelation of the kingdom leads to the Person of Jesus Christ come in the flesh. The kingdom of God has its objective reality in Him. He is God’s true people. His presence marks the presence of God in the place we designate His kingdom. His word comes as God’s ruling word with all authority. The New Testament, in declaring the kingdom “at hand” with the coming of Jesus. Jesus did not come to destroy the hopes of the Old Testament, but to fulfill them. The stage is fully set in the Old Testament. In the fullness of time Jesus breaks in upon that stage “preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God  has arrived and is here] : repent ye, and believe the gospel.” Mark 1:14,15. The long-looked-for, hoped-for kingdom of God has arrived in the Person and work of Jesus Christ. The hope of Israel has become present fact in Jesus Christ. In His Person and work the new age has broken in upon human history. The miracles of Jesus were not just a case of His proving that He was the true Messiah—for the false Christ is the one who ostentatiously shows himself off as Christ by signs and wonders (2 Thess. 2:1-9; Matt. 24:24)—but the miracles of Christ are the incontestable evidence that the powers of the new age have broken into history. Here is the Son of man, the new Adam, the Man as man was meant to be, who is subject to God and therefore Himself is Lord of the whole created order. Whether it is an unbroken donkey, the sea and the waves, disease or demons, even death itself, all are subject to this Man who fulfills God’s plan of being Lord over God’s creation (Gen. 1:26-28). The marvelous works of Jesus are thus the manifestation that the kingdom of God has come among men (Luke 17:21). The Old Testament with all its hopes and promises finds its fulfillment in Jesus Christ.

Paul declares that all the promises of God have found their fulfillment in Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 1:20).

The fact that the majority of Jews refused the gift and the way God fulfilled Old Testament hopes, makes no difference (Rom. 3:3). They are not all Israel who are of Israel (Rom. 9:6). Those who did accept Jesus as the hope of Israel were the prophesied remnant, the only true Israel of God. The blessings of God’s Messiah could not be contained in Jewry alone, for had not God said that in Abraham’s seed all families of the earth would be blessed?   God’s Christ was not only the Servant of Israel as depicted in Isaiah, but the second Adam. He was therefore not alone the hope of Israel, but “the Desire of all nations.” Hag. 2:7. It is on the basis of the gospel that we look for a new heaven in the age of the life to come. This is no vague hope. This new creation is already a reality in Jesus Christ. The end of the world and the great consummation at the second coming of Christ will merely be the open disclosure and empirical realization of what God has already done in Jesus Christ.”

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Do see also

http://pbulow.tripod.com/good.html

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/most-people-do-take-isolated-verse-and-twist-them/

http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2014/11/18/many-jews-even-messianic-jews-lie-about-christianity/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/dispensationalists-it-seems-to-compensate-for-their-often-rejections/

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/disspensationalists-are-false-christians/

 http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/12/06/who-really-are-the-judaizers/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/the-plymouth-brethren/

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/11/13/about-the-slave-driver-holy-spirit-hater/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/dispensationism-cessationism-zionism-and-the-bible/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/21/4180i-also-do-know-them/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/11/20/trying-to-be-jewish-and-a-christian-is-both-absurd-and-demonic-still/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/re-dispensationalist-plymouth-brethren/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/god-does-not-bless-an-ungodly-nation-like-israel/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/16/the-kingdom-of-heaven-is-gods-true-israel/

Disspensationalists are false Christians

The apostle Paul declared in Galatians 6:7, “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.” There has always been consequence to sin from the moment Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the garden (Genesis 2,3).

No Man should ever  think that he can escape the eye of God even if some time has passed..

For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie

https://dispensatiionalism.wordpress.com/2015/09/20/how-to-recognize-a-true-christian/

The Dispensationalist , Plymouth  Brethren false views on sins, accountability, grace, Israel and much more too is an undeniable fact even if they lie and try falsey to say it is Authentic Christianity, or the Good News, the Gospel, that for sure it is not! In the Western  world today, too many Brethren Christians dare not walk openly or share their faith “for fear of the Jews” and others , but not all of them. (Prov 28:1 KJV)  The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion. https://postedat.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/the-revisionists/
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NOW WE VALID CHRISTIANS DO BASE THE VALID DOCTRINES ON THE NEW TESTAMENT SUBSTANTIATION BY JESUS OR THE APOSTLES, NOT JUST ON THE  OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES.. now there is no biblical substantiation for Dispensationalists, Secret Rapture, Eternal security, Zionism, Messianic Jew too  
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There are many people, pastors, so called leaders, who because of various reasons have never received the fullness of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the second blessings , and thus they do not even know that they are out of touch with God and the holy Spirit.  They are still carnal, use their own human reasons, understandings, or listen to other carnal persons to obtain their often still false, corrupted spiritual understandings True spiritual understanding is a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit, with whom they have no contact even.. http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/the-plymouth-brethren/
 
The Baptism with the Holy Spirit is also referred to as, “the second blessing.”  where the baptism with the Holy Spirit is an additional experience that we must seek after we are saved, rather than the initial  one most people we receive with salvation. So in that case, the baptism with the Holy Spirit would be a SECOND BLESSING. Most real Pentecostal and Charismatic people do believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is a second blessing – one received in addition to salvation. They believe that you can be saved, and be indwelt by Christ — but that this is not ALL that God has for most us. You thus must go on to receive POWER, gifts, and an overflow. This, to them, is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the so-called, “second blessing.” The reasons most people did not receive the Baptism with the Holy Spirit at Salvation was they were ignorant of it, they did not accept Jesus Christ fully as the sole Lord of their life at salvation. Their salvation  is more of an intellectual salvation not a fully experiential salvation.. If you still personally must receive a second blessing to receive ALL that God wants to give us, then you do NOT receive all when you receive Christ. Thus, this means that it is entirely possible to be saved but LACK everything that goes with this, “second blessing.”  Which most often is the case.
Instead of rightfully here too taking Jesus words at face value, like they do with too many things, the Brethren have their own false re explanations, interpretations..
 When someone one says to me, others, on the net that they believe the Bible is the word of God, they believe Jesus is God and He is an equal  part of the Trinity, they believe in the Holy spirit now as being a person as well,  but they next do  deny falsely the existence of the  Holy Spirit’s  spiritual, charismatic gifts, they now are still lying, falsely  playing on words, because you cannot accept Jesus Christ and reject the Holy Spirit and his gifts. The Holy Spirt is the Spirit  of Christ. Thus they really are not Christians, for how could the Holy Spirit now be even guiding them and leading them into all truth when they cannot be led by him into these basics even.. rather they are being led by the devil, others, mere men, and not God undeniably still too.

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Plymouth Brethren it seems they  like to hide from what they really are and teach..  They say the want to be known as the  “No Name Christian Church”, but they are often called  “PB Church”, “PBer’s”, “The Brethren Church”, “Darbyites” and such like.  The history books often refer to them as Plymouth Brethren or those who started the Plymouth Brethren movement.  This Plymouth Brethren label came to be used in the early 1800s because an assembly of Christians gathered in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in Plymouth England had a number of gifted preachers that traveled and preached throughout the country and because they were from the town of Plymouth, people would often refer to them as one of those brethren from Plymouth.
 
While the Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word of God, they too  clearly do have this unholy, desperate and complicated need to reinterpret almost every  passages of the Bible suitable to their own liking. It is impossible to give a concise, succinct definition of Dispensationalism today because of the many changes among dispensational teachers. There is more than one view of Dispensationalism today. Therefore, the old definition found in the Scofield Bible is no longer accurate or adequate: “A dispensation is a period of time during which a man is tested in respect of obedience to some specific revelation of the will of God” (Scofield Reference Bible, p. 5, note 4 )so  it is impossible to give a concise and succinct definition of Dispensationalism, and if Darby, Scofield, or even Chafer were to return today, they would be bewildered by the widely divergent stances of those still called dispensationalists. So clearly Dispensationalism cannot be defined as a return to the new testament biblical, beliefs, doctrines any longer too. “Darby and many others Brrthren had held that the church of God would escape the days of the end [i.e., the days of the great tribulation]; Newton, Tregelles, George Müller, and others believed the church will go through that period; R. C. Chapman, Groves, and Lady Powerscourt thought that not all believers will share in the first resurrection and the millennial kingdom…. “

Because of the dogmatic insistence of Darby and his followers that others heed their instructions, which they felt to be the Spirit’s leading, they reaped divisions in abundance

John Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 – 29 April 1882) was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism and Futurism in the English vernacular. He produced a false translation of the Bible based on the Hebrew and Greek texts called The Holy Scriptures: A New Translation from the Original Languages by J. N. Darby.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+4&version=NLT;AMP;DARBY

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While the Plymouth Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word they have clearly seem to like to eradicate, explain away the Bible references to personal  judgement, reaping, sins, Hell, damnation, and I often still do wonder why? what are they hiding? are fearful of? the real truth? It is true that there have been many dispensationalists who have not embraced selective-resurrection or chastisement at the judgment seat.

Jesus tells us “Beware of the scribes…” and in 1 Corinthians 1:19-20 “It is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?”

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The Plymouth Brethren has mainly  split into Exclusive and Open Brethren in 1848 when George Müller refused John Nelson Darby‘s bias view of the relationship between local assemblies following difficulties in the Plymouth meeting. Brethren that held Muller’s congregational view became known as “Open”, those holding Darby’s ‘connexional‘ view, became known as “Exclusive” or “Darbyite” Brethren. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/subdivisions/exclusivebrethren_1.shtml

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Religious people are always arguing about WHEN it will happen – PRE – MID – POST tribulation. Believing NO RAPTURE solves all those arguments. Some people prefer NOT to call it THE RAPTURE, but have other names for it. You hear people quoting Scripture when they say COME QUICKLY, LORD JESUS. They are looking for an ESCAPE from the things of this world. When things REALLY get bad, and there is NO RAPTURE, many will turn their back on Jesus because they were not RESCUED. When this happens, they cancel their ticket to Heaven. This is exactly what the devil wanted, when he started the teaching of THE RAPTURE. The false teachings of Rapture, Zionism, Eternal security, were also brought in by the The Plymouth Brethren  IS THERE REALLY TO BE A RAPTURE The origin of Rapture False doctrine: John Darby 1830 AD.  http://www.bible.ca/rapture-origin-john-nelson-darby-1830ad.htm

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Holy Bible Darby TranslationJohn Nelson Darby Version: Doctrinal Changes to the Holy Bible In view of John Darby’s departure from historic Christian beliefs, let us examine his bible   http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_doctrinal_changes.html

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Dispensationalism: Occult Roots  Do you really believe the Holy Spirit led J.N. Darby and other Brethren leaders to use Luciferian terms to refer to God and teach supposedly “recovered” biblical truths?  http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_writings_occult.html

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John Darby’s Pre-Tribulation Rapture Alterations to the Bible John Nelson Darby inserted a message of imminence into many prophetic verses of scripture. http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_pretrib_immediacy.html

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Darby/Scofield’s  claim that Jesus  is still “coming in flesh”  is Antichrist  http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/darby_coming_in_flesh.html

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What does scripture teach?  Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.  Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.  Is Christ divided?  (1 Cor. 1: 10-13)

 and yet the brethren cause, practice,  and have divisions amongst themselves from the start even.. one of the first being Rev George Muellar

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There are Much too many typical Plymouth Dispensational Brethren and whether they are open or closed Brethren that are deceitful .. they are also those persons who do do still falsely and too often substitute next their own men ‘s teaching for the Christ’s, and while the Bible opposes divorce for Christian persons, the Plymouth Brethren undeniably even encourage divorce of any spouse Christian or not who does not heed to the full brethren doctrines, the wife does not need to listen to her husband in anything even if the husband who was to be the head of the home .

The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren undeniably as I too have witnessed do go behind the husbands back and will even encourage the wife to divorce her husband cause he is not a true Plymouth Dispensational Brethren contrary to the Bible.

(1 Cor 11:3 KJV) But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Eph 5:23 KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

1 Cor 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1 Cor 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1 Cor 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren tend to be WASP. white, Anglo Saxon, protestants still too, and the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren say that “We teach that all who place their faith and trust in Jesus Christ are immediately placed by the Holy Spirit into one united spiritual body, the church” is a lie for too many many real Christians are immediately rejected, shut out of the brethren church , excluded for not being dispensationalist. The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren also undeniable practice personal character assassination, slander, human rights abuse when they often do openly make a claim that anyone, any Christian who is a Pentecostal is an emotional, mentally disturbed individual as I have often witnessed myself as well.. The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren false views on sins, accountability, grace, Israel and much more too is an undeniable fact even if they lie and try falsely to say it is Authentic Christianity, or the Good News, the Gospel, that for sure it is not! Plymouth Dispensational Brethren it seems they like to hide from what they really are and teach.” While they the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren too often hide who they are by making the statement they are Christians, they certainly are not true Christians and for century have not been accepted by the major Christian churches. The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren to me rightfully are the wolves in sheep clothing, the false brethren who crept in amongst us falsely saying they are Christians.. they are a new group at it too.. since they started only in the 1800.. It would be rather generally accurate to say that they are racists, sectarian, divisional, hate mongers, anti Pentecostals, liars and slanders too.. and anyone does not heed to dispensational teach is evil, Ch Spurgeoen, Rev George Muellar, me included ehh “

“Over the years outsiders and historians have called us by names not of our choosing, but we have not and do not lay claim to any of them.  The “No Name Church”, “PB Church”, “PBer’s”, “The Brethren Church”, “Darbyites” and such like.  The history books often refer to us as Plymouth Brethren or those who started the Plymouth Brethren movement.  This Plymouth Brethren label came to be used in the early 1800s because an assembly of Christians gathered in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in Plymouth England had a number of gifted preachers that traveled and preached throughout the country and because they were from the town of Plymouth, people would often refer to them as one of those brethren from Plymouth. Thus the label or designation Plymouth Brethren. It would be generally accurate to say that we are evangelical, dispensational, conservative and orthodox as to doctrine and practice.”

 It would be rather  generally accurate for me again to say that   you mostly are still  false, liars, slanderers, sectarian,  divisional, hate mongers, anti Pentecostals, liars and slanders   too

>>We teach that the Bible is the only infallible rule of faith and practice (Matt. 5:18; 24:35; John 10:35; 16:12, 13; 17:17; 1 Cor. 2:13; 2 Tim. 3:15-17; Heb. 4:12; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21) We teach that the Bible is God’s written revelation to man, and that the 66 books of the Bible given to us by the Holy Spirit constitute the inspired Word of God (1 Cor. 2:7-14; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21). We teach that the Word of God is verbally inspired in every word (2 Tim. 3:16), absolutely inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed. We teach the literal, grammatical-historical-contextual-dispensational  interpretation of Scripture. We teach that God spoke in His written Word by a process of divine and human authorship. The Holy Spirit so superintended the human authors that, through their individual personalities and different styles of writing, they composed and recorded God’s Word to man (2 Pet. 1:20, 21) without error in the whole or in the part (Matt. 5:18; 2 Tim. 3:16). We teach that, whereas there may be several applications of any given passage of Scripture, there is but one true interpretation.

ha ha ha the Brethren one of course..

>>The meaning of Scripture is to be found as one diligently applies the literal, grammatical-historical-contextual-dispensational method of interpretation under the leading and guidance of the Holy Spirit (John 7:17; 16:12-15; 1 Cor. 2:7-15; 1 John 2:20). The Scripture is its own best interpreter by comparing Scripture with Scripture.  (1 Cor. 2:13)  It is the responsibility of all believers to carefully search out the true intent and meaning of Scripture and that the Scriptures stand in judgment of men; never ought men stand in judgment of it. (Heb. 4:12,13)

 that is mere hypocrisy, for  mind you the brethren insist you read their solely their recommended commentaries.. and follow only their teachers

>>We teach that the Holy Spirit administers spiritual gifts to the church.

 but you also add to the word of God and lying say all his gifts have now ceased

>>All men are thus sinners by nature, by choice, and by divine declaration (Psa. 14:1-3; Jer. 17:9; Rom. 3:9-18, 23; 5:10-12)

  Including most of the brethren now still too

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>>We teach that the local assembly is autonomous and free from any central authority or control other than Christ who is the head of the Church.

the control is mostly still  by your bad elders.. and you do still falsely and too often substitute next men ‘s teaching for the Christ’s.

>>We teach that there were two kinds of gifts given to the early church: miraculous gifts of divine revelation and healing, given temporarily in the apostolic era for the purpose of confirming the authenticity of the apostles’ message ( 2 Cor. 12:12; Heb. 2:3, 4); and ministering gifts, given to equip believers for edifying one another. With the New Testament revelation now complete, Scripture becomes the sole test of the authenticity of a man’s message, and confirming gifts of a miraculous nature are no longer necessary to validate a man or his message (1 Cor. 13:8-12). Miraculous gifts can even be counterfeited by Satan so as to deceive even believers (Matt. 24:24). The only gifts in operation today are those non-revelatory equipping gifts given for edification (Rom. 12:6-8). We teach that no one possesses the sign gift of healing today but that God does hear and answer the prayer of faith and will answer in accordance with His own perfect will for the sick, suffering, and afflicted (Luke 18:1-8; John 5:7-9; 2 Cor. 12:6-10; James 5:13-16; 1 John 5:14, 15).

 That is all brethren dunk only.. not the word of God for my experience in the baptism of the Holy Sprit is real and so are my speaking, praying in tongues , something you cannot talk about cause you have never firstly personal  experienced it

 Like I said read all of my post they disprove all you believe in and often

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“In my historical research of the Church over the last 35 years I have found an earlier record of the rapture doctrine than Margaret McDonald and the Irvingites. If you will check the counter reformation move of Papal Rome in the 16th century after Martin Luther nailed his 95 thesis to the church door in Wittenberg on October 31, 1517. You will find that Pope Leo X authorized three Jesuit Priests to reinterpret Daniel’s 70 weeks of prophecy; the Book of Revelation; and Ezekiel. The goal of these Jesuits was to take the heat of the reformation away from the papacy. The three Jesuits were: 1. Francisco Ribera (1537-1591) of Salamanca – futurism/rapturists 2. Luis de Alcazar (1554-1621) of Seville – praeterism 3. Cardinal Roberto Bellarmine (1542-1621) – followed Ribera’s school of thought The futurists rapture doctrine originated and was submitted by Francisco Ribera in 1585. His Apocalyptic Commentary was on the grand points of Babylon and Anti-christ which we now call the futurists or rapture doctrine. Ribera’s published work was called “In Sacram Beati Ionnis Apostoli ” Evangelistate Apocoalypsin Commentari (Lugduni 1593). You can still find these writings in the Bodleian Library in Oxford England. I don’t have the time or space to go into this in great detail, but suffice it for now that Ribera’s futurist interpretation rocked not only the protestant church , but also the Catholic church so the Pope ordered it buried in the archives out of sight. Unfortunately, over 200 years later a librarian to the Archbishop of Canterbury by the name of S. R. Maitland (1792-1866) was appointed to be the Keeper of the Manuscripts at Lambeth Palace, in London, England. In his duties, Dr. Maitland came across Francisco Ribera’s futurists/rapture teaching and he had it republished for the sake of interest in early 1826 with follow ups in 1829 and 1830. This was spurred along with the Oxford Tracts that were published in 1833 to try and deprotestantize the Church of England. John Nelson Darby (1800-1882) (A Leader of the Plymouth Brethren) became a follower of S.R. Maitland’s prophetic endeavors and was persuaded. Darby’s influence in the seminaries of Europe combined with 7 tours of the United States changed the eschatological view of the ministers which had the trickle down effect into the churches. Darby’s/Ribera’s teachings were embraced radically by Cyrus Ingerson Scofield (1843-1921). Scofield adopted Darby’s/Ribera’s school of prophetic thought into the Scofield Reference Bible of 1909 which was heralded as the “book of books”. Another contributor to the rapturist’s chaotic prophetic line of thought came through Emmanuel Lacunza (1731-1801), a Jesuit priest from Chile. Lacunza wrote the “Coming of Messiah in Glory and Majesty” around 1791. It was later published in London in 1827. The book was attributed to a fictitious author name Rabbi Juan Josafat BenEzra. Reverend Edward Irving (1792-1834) contended that it was the work of a converted Jew and proved that even the Jewish scholars embraced a pre-tribulation rapture line of thought. It wasn’t long until he had persuaded others to follow his line of thought which gave birth to the Irvingites (per your reference to Margaret McDonald). In March 1830, in Port Glasgow, Scotland, 15 year old Margaret McDonald made claim of her visions. Robert Norton published Margaret’s visions and prophecies in a book entitled, “The Restoration of Apostles and Prophets in the Catholic Apostolic Church” (London, 1861). Although the modern day view of every believer being taken away in a rapture is different from all of the thoughts that came before it, there is little doubt to it’s error. Lacunza casserted that only thopse believers that partake of the sacrament of the Eucharist would be raptured; while Margaret McDonald said the rapture would only take those that were filled with the Holy Spirit; and Norton claimed that only those that had been sealed with the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands would be raptured. Definitely confusion ensued. John Darby, an ordained deacon in the Church of England, was acquainted with Edward Irving and had visited Margaret McDonald during the time of her visions. Combined with the knowledge he had gained from S.R. Maitland/Ribera’s teachings and the new push from Irving/McDonald/Lucunza’s teachings, Darby used the rapture theory to bring a clean break from the lethargic Church of England. Ribera and Lucunza’s teachings find a meeting point in John Nelson Darby. The effects of this purported lie against the truth are still dominant today in Christian churches world-wide. Albeit the light is still shining, through individuals like yourself, and I believe beyond the shadow of a doubt that Truth will prevail and this disgusting futurists heresy will be thrown down and disproved once and for all.   “

 Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister of Australia, said in 2007: “I believe this is an extremist cult and sect,”[and “They split families and I am deeply concerned about their impact on communities across Australia.”.

Critics of The Plymouth Brethren firstly object  to their false teaching that you have to use their approved commentaries to study the Bible,with a very heavy, false emphasis on the original Greek and not the Holy Spirit as they are Cessationists falsely.

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Critics of The Plymouth Brethren have accused it of using cult techniques by controlling all aspects of its members’ lives  The group’s influence over its members is such that many who have left the group have had trouble adjusting to life outside. To help with this problem, several websites have been set up to assist people that have left the church to adjust back into mainstream society

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Among the various criticisms raised against the church? ( they themselves do not admit to being one) are:

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They tend not to reveal openly, initially who they really are but camouflage it by saying they are Christians but this is not the true since most Christians do not agree with their too many false doctrines.

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They do contrary to the Bible falsely recommend one spouse to divorce the other one if they do not agree with their doctrines. Separation from Evil – God’s Principle of Unity. “  Hence the church is to put out from itself the wicked person, and thus maintains its separation from evil.  But, alas! we know worldliness creeps in, and spiritual power declines; the taste for this blessing is enfeebled, because it is not enjoyed in the power of the Spirit; the spiritual fellowship with Christ the heavenly Head decays, and the power which banishes evil out of the church is no longer in living exercise… the evil must be separated from.“ Rev John Darby

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Members who leave or who are expelled from the group have often been treated with what outsiders may regard as undeniably  great cruelty.

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The Exclusive Brethren were accused of providing over half a million dollars to the campaign of George W. Bush, another half-million to the campaign of New Zealand National leader, Don Brash, and large amounts to the campaign of Australia’s John Howard. The Brethren Church claims it has never engaged in political activity. Individual citizens, they claim, have the right to express their concerns and encourage principles which they support or believe are right, although Exclusive Brethren do not – as a matter of principle – vote. The media attention on the brethren has been particularly active in Australasia. In 2007, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation current affairs television program ‘Four Corners’ aired an investigation into a claim of secret campaigning by the Exclusive Brethren alleging that church elders had met with both the then Australian Prime Minister John Howard and the Treasurer Peter Costello  and had allegedly provided them with their support.[ The program revealed that the Brethren had a vigorous and largely untold political history going back at least to 1993, and provided evidence of a trail spelling out how its members have spent millions in state and federal elections and overseas, including the USA.

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During the 2005 general election, the National Party leader Don Brash accepted covert assistance from the Exclusive Brethren. This assistance included organising a separate electoral canvassing and advertising campaign that attacked the socially-liberal policies of the incumbent Labour and Greencoalition government. This strategy backfired and contributed to Prime Minister Helen Clark‘s second re-election

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Critics asserted that the Exclusive Brethren’s canvassing campaign was such that at one stage it had “threatened the Government” of that country  Ex New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark accused the sect of hiring a private detective to gather dirt on her and husband Peter Davis, who was photographed kissing one of the couple’s oldest friends, Dr Ian Scott, who is gay.  Due to the ensuing public backlash against the Exclusive Brethren’s canvassing efforts, Brash’s successor Prime Minister John Key explicitly rejected any assistance from the Exclusive Brethren during the 2008 election 

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Controversy over the Brethren also  revolves around the practice of “shutting up”, where families or persons are confined to their homes, this  is used to punish members who break rules.

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The doctrine of the separation of Israel and the Church, the foundation of dispensationalism, was born out of Darby’s attempt to justify his newly fabricated rapture theory with the Bible. Dispensationalists believed justification for carving up the Scriptures came from 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) “rightly dividing the word of truth.” Subsequent dispensationalists divided the Scriptures in terms of categories of people: Jew, Gentile, and Christian. Chafer taught that the only Scriptures addressed specifically to Christians were the gospel of John, Acts, and the Epistles! Pettengill taught that the Great Commission was for the Jews only. http://www.seeking4truth.com/john_darby.htm

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“END-TIME” CONFUSION ABOUNDS. But the Scripture tells us “God is not the author of confusion” (I Cor. 14:33). Yet when it comes to proper end-time direction, Dispensationalist  churches almost universally exude mainly  the spirit of confusion and contradictions.

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Matthew 24:37-41 (Jesus speaking) But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days that were before the flood, THEY (the wicked) were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark. And THEY (the wicked) knew not until the flood came and took THEM (the wicked) ALL AWAY; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.

THEY and THEM are clearly the WICKED (ungodly unbelievers).

Verse 40 – Then shall two be in the field, the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN, and the other left.

Two shall be grinding at the mill; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN and the other left.

Luke 17:26, 27 and 34-36 (Jesus speaking) As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the day of the Son of Man. THEY (the WICKED) did eat, THEY (the WICKED) did drink, THEY (the WICKED) married wives, THEY (the WICKED) were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came and destroyed THEM (the WICKED) all.

…I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed,; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN (destroyed) and the other left.

Two women shall be grinding together; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN (destroyed) and the other left.

Two men shall be in the field; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN (destroyed) and the other left.

RAPTURE believers think THEY will be the ONE TAKEN. If you think YOU will be TAKEN, lets see what Jesus says will happen to you.

Luke 17:37, Jesus answers the disciples question of what happens to the TAKEN ONES. Jesus said, WHERE THERE IS A DEAD BODY, THERE THE VULTURES WILL GATHER.

2 Peter 2:5 (Peter speaking) (God) saved (kept safe) Noah…bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly (WICKED).

Matthew 13:24-30 The parable of the wheat and the tares. Gather together FIRST THE TARES. Jesus continues, The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they will gather OUT of His Kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity….

Luke 17:29,30 (Jesus speaking) …(in) Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from Heaven and destroyed THEM ALL. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed. THE WICKED were destroyed, once again.

Matthew 13:47-50 (Jesus speaking) Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a net that was cast into the sea and gathered of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but THREW THE BAD AWAY. So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and SEVER THE WICKED from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire…

Once again the GOOD remain and the BAD are thrown away. THE WICKED TAKEN and destroyed “from among the just,” who remain on the earth.

I Thessalonians 5:3 (Paul speaking) For when THEY (THE WICKED) shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction shall come upon THEM…and they shall not escape.

Matthew 24:21,22 and Mark 13:19,20 (Jesus speaking) For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved (survive); but for THE ELECT’s sake whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.

How can there be THE ELECT during this time IF they went in THE RAPTURE?

ELECT is also mentioned in Luke 18:7; Romans 8:33; Colossians 3:12; Titus 1:1

Proverbs 2:21, 22 For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall REMAIN in it, but THE WICKED shall be cut off (taken/destroyed) from the earth and the transgressors shall be rooted OUT of it.

Psalm 145:20 The Lord preserveth ALL that love him; but ALL THE WICKED He will destroy.

Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall NEVER be REMOVED;

Proverbs 11:31 The righteous shall be recompensed IN the (world) earth…

Psalm 101:8 I (God) will early (first) destroy THE WICKED of the land…

Psalm 119:119 All THE WICKED of the earth you discard (throw away) like dross.

Proverbs 25:4,5 Take AWAY the dross from the silver…Take AWAY THE WICKED from before the King…

Isaiah 5:24 and 29:5 The flame consumeth the chaff (WICKED).

Job 21:18 THEY (THE WICKED) are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff that the storm carrieth AWAY.

Job 38:13 (Speaking to God) …take hold of the ends of the earth that THE WICKED might be shaken OUT of it.

Malachi 4:1 For behold the day cometh…and all that do WICKEDLY, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up…

Psalm 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land (earth) and dwell therein FOREVER.

Psalm 37:9-11 For evildoers (WICKED) shall be cut off (destroyed); but those that wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth.

Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger…and He shall destroy the sinners thereof OUT of it (the earth).

Psalm 104:35 Let the sinners be consumed OUT OF THE EARTH (world), and let the wicked be no more.

Psalm 52:5 God shall likewise destroy THEE (THE WICKED) forever; He shall take THEE AWAY, and pluck THEE OUT of thy dwelling place.

The above are just some of the Scriptures that make it CLEAR that the righteous STAY, and THE WICKED GO.

Ezekiel 9:4-6 and Revelation 9:3,4 talk about THE WICKED being destroyed in the midst of the RIGHTEOUS.

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Also

Was Job raptured out of his time of tribulation (testing)? NO

Was Joseph raptured out of the pit or prison? NO

Was Daniel raptured out of the lion’s den? NO

Was King David raptured out of all his tribulation? NO

Exodus 7:18 through 12:30 records the Israelites were IN Egypt for all ten plagues of God’s wrath.

Was Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego raptured out of the firery furnace? NO

Was Jesus or any of the Apostles raptured out of their persecution? NO

Was Paul raptured out of all his tribulations (2 Corithians 11:23-27)? NO

NO RAPTURE, JUST MUCH TRIBULATION

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1 Thessalonians 4:17 is the SINGLE Scripture used to justify THE RAPTURE by false doctrine. Based on Scripture, you cannot make a doctrine on a SINGLE Scripture. The word RAPTURE does not appear in the text of any translation of the Bible, in any language.

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“CAUGHT UP” are the words used by many when referring to THE RAPTURE. King James must have missed this one because the words “CAUGHT UP” are not found in the Young’s Concordance for 1 Thessalonians 4:17. However, “CATCH” is listed under that Scripture. That word appears 13 times, and is translated six different ways: catch, catch away, catch (caught) up, pluck and take by force. In the 12 other Scriptures, it has nothing to do with the physical removal of living people from the earth/world to heaven.

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Also in THE RAPTURE CHAPTER, 1 Thessalonians 4:17, is to meet the lord IN THE AIR. According to the Strong’s and Young’s concordance, “AIR” is the Greek word “AER”, as used in the following Scriptures:

Acts 22:23, …and threw dust into the air (AER).

1 Corinthians 9:26, …not as one who beateth the air (AER).

1 Corinthians 14:9, …for ye shall speak in the air (AER).

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Another Greek word which is also translated, AIR, in the KJV of the Bible is OURANOS. That translation is found in Matthew 6:26, 8:20, 13:32; Mark 4:4 and 32; Luke 8:5, 9:58, 13:19 and Acts 10:12, 11:6. Each one of these Scriptures refer to “the birds/fowls of the air (ouranos).

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Grab a handful of dirt and throw it into the air. That’s about where you would be hanging IF there were to be a RAPTURE, based on the recorded meaning of the word AIR.

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Next we have the phrase “with them in the CLOUDS”. If you look outside, you can see the clouds WAY UP there. BUT, is that what the Scripture means? No.

In the following Scriptures, the CLOUD came DOWN to earth:

Matthew 17:5; Mark 9:7; Luke 9:34

In 1Corinthians 10:1,2, they were UNDER the CLOUD, and were baptized IN the CLOUD.

Hebrews 11:36 through 12:2 talks about SO GREAT A CLOUD OF WITNESSES.

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With all of the above, let us read 1 Thessalonians 4, beginning at verse 13, with a much more accurate and clearer understanding of the words and terms used therein. For clarity, the following Scripture quotes from 1 Thessalonians are in capital letters.

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“BUT I WOULD NOT HAVE YOU IGNORANT, BRETHREN, CONCERNING THEM WHICH ARE ASLEEP (this Scripture is primarily about the departed/dead saints in Christ) THAT YE SORROW NOT, EVEN AS OTHERS WHICH HAVE NO HOPE (the Sadducees did not believe in a resurrection). FOR IF WE BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN (we all believe that), EVEN SO (in like manner) THEM ALSO WHICH SLEEP (are dead) IN JESUS WILL GOD BRING WITH HIM (Jesus). FOR THIS WE SAY UNTO YOU BY THE WORD OF THE LORD, THAT WE (Biblical believers) WHO ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN (on earth) UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD SHALL NOT PREVENT (precede) (have any advantage over) THEM WHICH ARE ASLEEP. FOR THE LORD HIMSELF SHALL DESCEND FROM HEAVEN (Acts 1:11, Jesus went directly from earth to Heaven and shall return “in like manner” directly from Heaven to earth. No rapture back to heaven for a later third coming!) WITH A SHOUT, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, AND THE TRUMP(et) OF GOD: AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE (Greek word, anistemi: to set up or be resurrected) FIRST: THEN WE WHO ARE ALIVE (“We shall not all die, but shall be changed/transformed/transfigured” (1 Cor 15:51) AND REMAIN (on the earth in the “aer”) SHALL BE CAUGHT UP (made one) (harpazo) TOGETHER (at the same time) WITH THEM (the dead in Christ) IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR (the “great cloud of witnesses” that will “be made perfect” with us on earth when Jesus brings their spirits “with Him” to be united with their bodies resurrected out of the ground “first” into the air [aer] with us in the air, on the surface of the earth): AND SO SHALL WE (for) EVER BE WITH THE LORD (in the air [aer] here ON earth forever). WHEREFORE, COMFORT (reassure) ONE ANOTHER WITH THESE WORDS.” (Notice, the Lord “descended from Heaven” before we are “caught up” to Him; just as the “New Jerusalem” came down to dwell with us–Rev. 21:2.)

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“It is a fact that no Christian churches, congregations or fellowships existing prior to 1830 proclaimed a RAPTURE doctrine, and all accepted the Biblical truth that Christians would be on earth during the time of great tribulation. Before 1830, the single RAPTURE Scripture of 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 were accepted as resurrection verses.

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The SCOFIELD Bible and the DAKE’S Bible were the first to carry FOOTNOTES about THE RAPTURE. It’s all (BAD) history from there!

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Many well-known scholars warned that the teachings of dispensationalism were “unscriptural” (Spurgeon), “heterodox” (Dabney), “bizarre doctrine” and “grievous error” (Warfield), but the warnings went largely unheeded.

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WE HAVE been requested to reply to a small tract which has been given away at the door of the Tabernacle, by one of the “Plymouth Brethren,” but it is so devoid of all sense, Scripture and reason, that it needs no reply. We have not learned the art of beating the air, or replying to nonsense. The only meaning we could gather from the rambling writer’s remarks was a confirmation of our accusation, and a wonderful discovery that a long controverted point is now settled; the unpardonable sin is declared to be speaking against the Darbyites. Our portion must be something terrible if this be correct, but we have so little faith in the spirit which inspires the Brethren, that we endure their thunderbolts as calmly as we would those of the other infallible gentleman who occupies the Vatican. Another of this amiable community, having detected an error in one of our printed sermons, has most industriously spread the tidings that Mr. Spurgeon is a blasphemer. At the doors of their meetings and by enclosures in letters this sweet specimen of Christian charity is abundantly distributed; more to their shame than to our injury. We are persuaded that neither the writer of that cowardly anonymous fly-sheet, nor any other Plymouthist, believes in his heart that Mr. Spurgeon would knowingly blaspheme the glorious name of Jesus, and therefore the issue of the pamphlet is, we fear, a wickedly malicious act, dictated by revenge on account of our remarks upon their party. Our name and character are in too good a keeping to be injured by these dastardly anonymous attacks. NeitherMr. Newton* nor Mr. Muller** would sanction such action; it is only from one clique that we receive this treatment. It is worthy of note that even the printer was ashamed or afraid to put his name to the printed paper. Our error was rectified as soon as ever we knew of it, and being fallible we could do no more; but these men, who pretend to be so marvellously led of the Spirit, have in this case deliberately, and in the most unmanly manner, sought to injure the character of one who has committed the great sin of mortifying their pride, and openly exposing their false doctrine. “ http://www.spurgeon.org/s_and_t/pb.htm

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“ An invisible Coming and pre-Tribulation Rapture is not found in the Bible. Before 1830 the belief in an invisible Return of Christ and a pre-Tribulation Rapture was unheard of in  the public discourse of the Evangelical Church. No one today has independently studied the Prophetic Scripture and come to any such conclusion on their own. Every new believer must be taught this solely from Darby’s theology in order to believe that there will be an invisible return of Christ and a pre-Tribulation Rapture. This teaching cannot be derived directly from the Bible because it just simply is not there. Jesus never taught it, the Apostles never taught it and the Hebrew Prophets never taught it. In fact Christ Himself as well as Paul clearly warned us against being fooled into believing in a secret Coming or a pre-Antichrist/Apostasy Rapture (Matthew 24:26-28 and II Thessalonians 2:3-4). The Apostle Paul said, “…learn not to go beyond what is written.” II Corinthians 4:6. If Darby’s invisible Coming and pre-Tribulation Rapture cannot be found anywhere in the Word of God it has to be categorized as mere speculation and must be considered an unbiblical doctrine.  

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Contradicting Darby’s theology, the Bible clearly teaches that the Rapture will occur at the Seventh Trumpet after the Antichrist is revealed and every eye will certainly see Jesus when He first appears on the clouds

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Every eye will see Him

Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him… Revelation 1:7

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He will appear with great power and glory to gather the elect after the Tribulation

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“But immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars of the heaven will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.” Matthew 24:29-31

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The coming of the Lord and the Rapture will not occur until the Antichrist is revealed

Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together with Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed wither by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceived you, for it will not come unless the apostasy come first and the man of lawless ness is revealed II Thessalonians 2:1-3

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The Rapture will occur at the Last Trumpet

Behold I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. II Corinthians 15:51-52

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The Mystery of God will be finished at the Seventh Trumpet, not before the Tribulation

“…In the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound then the Mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets.” Revelation 10:6-7

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The Mystery of God is Christ in the Church

The mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to the saints, to who God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of Glory. Colossians 1:26-27

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Because every eye will see Him and the Rapture as well, the Church as a mystery to the world will be finished

When Christ who is our life is revealed, then you will also be revealed with Him in glory. Colossians 3:4

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Jesus will be revealed from heaven and give relief the the afflicted Church

…And give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His might angels in flaming fire. II Thessalonians 1:7

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Christ warns us about believing in a secret coming

For if they say to you, “Behold He is in the wilderness,” do not go out, or “Behold He is in the inner rooms,” do not believe them.  Matthew 24:26

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He describes His return being as visible as lightning flashing across the entire sky

For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Matthew 24:27

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“If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or wonder, and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spoke unto you, saying, ‘let us go after other gods, which you have not known, and let us serve them’; you shall not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord proves [tests] you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.”Deuteronomy 13:1–3

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“In regard to the teachings of visionaries, recall what the apostle John commanded Christians.“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1

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And though some refer to the prophecy of Daniel that “knowledge shall be increased” (Daniel 12:4) as proof that the revival of doctrinal truths will occur at the end of the age, this is not what Daniel meant. If you read the prophet carefully you will find Daniel was speaking that “the knowledge” of his prophecies will be increased, not the revival of general doctrines. In the original text of Daniel, the definite article occurs before the word “knowledge.” Daniel said THE knowledge will be increased,” and the text shows he meant “the knowledge of his prophecies.” Daniel was in no way speaking about a renewing of doctrines at the Time of the End.

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A further admonition is necessary concerning the origins of visionary teachings that might emerge near our own time. It is by the apostle Paul and we should pay close attention to it. “Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”1 Timothy 4:1

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These warnings from God’s word are a reminder that we should exercise caution in accepting the truthfulness of visionary revelations, particularly those near the end of the age, and which are contradictory to one another and to the Bible. The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Theory is such a doctrine; a teaching with no scriptural warrant. After all, the Holy Scriptures makes it plain that the first resurrection (when Christians from the past have their resurrections and we are caught up to heaven with Christ) occurs after the Tribulation is over (Revelation 20:5). And though a number of people within the Body of Christ have taken up with this false doctrine, it is time to jettison it from Christian belief.

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The truth is, we will be protected from the evils of the Antichrist system (and the judgments of the Great Tribulation) by a mantle of safety from God that will protect us on earth. There is only one Second Advent of Christ and that is the moment (for all of us then living) we will be changed into immortality and the resurrection of the dead takes place. That is when all of us will meet Christ in the clouds (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18). We can believe this teaching with full assurance and faith. Remember, God cares for you and all the Body of Christ.” http://www.askelm.com/essentials/ess025.htm

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See Dr. Martin’s articles “The Place of Safety” at   http://www.askelm.com/prophecy/p971116.htm

http://www.askelm.com/prophecy/p991123.htm

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Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. – 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. – 2 Timothy 3:12

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And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch, Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. – Acts 14:21-22

Pre tribulation Rapture, eternal security, and Jesus coming back to reestablish Israel as a Nation , the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem are all a Hoax, Dispensational lies.  Jesus coming back to reestablish Israel as a Nation gives false hope to the Jews.. It is the anti Christ Yeshua  who is coming for them

Unfortunately, those of us who wish to live holy and righteous lives in Christ, WILL suffer persecution (2 Tim 3:12). When Paul wrote that to Timothy, he wasn’t thinking of the persecution that you and I have experienced – frowns, disapproval and lost jobs. No, he was referring to the persecution that Christians are experiencing right now in the Arab world – such as with ISIS and Boko Haram. The persecution that THEY are experiencing now, is coming for us all too soon. We call it The Great Tribulation, but we would understand it better if we called it The Great Persecution.

However, we have many  who believe in a different story. They believe that we will NOT suffer the persecution of the Antichrist, and  it is because they have put their trust in a lie.

Now what the Bible actually  tells you:

  • The Antichrist must come before the Rapture
  • The Tribulation must come before the Rapture
  • The Sun and Moon Must be Darkened before the Rapture
  • The Lord Must descend from Heaven with a Shout before the Rapture
  • Jesus Must Return before the Rapture
  • The Resurrection must happen just before the Rapture (or, at the same time)
  • There is only one resurrection for those who are God’s people
  • God promised that Christians would suffer
  • There IS a Place of Safety on this Earth

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. – Matthew 24:29-31

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. – Matthew 24:15-22

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. – Matthew 24:21

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

Paul declared that when Christ should come, there would be a shout; a voice; a trumpet; the righteous dead would be resurrected, and along with the righteous living, would be caught up from the earth to meet the Lord in the clouds never to part again.

The apostle John reveals that the coming of Jesus to this earth will be as follows:

Revelation 1:7 “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.”

Matthew 24:30-31 “…then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

Christ declared that when He returns the second time, it is not a secret rapture,  it would be with a sign; all people on the earth would see Him coming in the clouds of heaven and with power and great glory; the great majority of all the people of the earth would not be happy, but would mourn; there would be a great sound of a trumpet; and God would gather His obedient elect to Himself from every part of the world.

Did Jesus ask his Father to take us out of the world? Christ Himself prayed that His Father would not take His people “out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.” John 17:15.

The Secret Rapture teaching was introduced into the United States and Canada between the 1840’s and 1870’s.  A Congregationalist preacher by the name of C. I. Scofield came under the influence of Darby and the Plymouth Brethren. Scofield became a strong promoter of the teaching that had been promulgated by Darby, whom he considered “the most profound Bible student of modern times.” He incorporated this teaching into his SCOFIELD REFERENCE BIBLE. Three million copies were published in the first 50 years! Through this Bible Scofield shrewdly carried the teaching of the Secret Rapture into the very heart of Evangelicalism.

Christ taught that his coming is about as secret as a Nuclear bomb!

Luke 17:22 -27 “And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it. And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them. For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation. And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Luke 21:25-28  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;  Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.  And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.  And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

And the great tribulation is NOT the wrath of GOD. It is really the WRATH of Satan upon God’s Church.

Revelation 12:12-13 ¶ Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

The wrath of GOD is contained in 7 Vials. Which is poured out upon the wicked at the time of Christ’s coming.

Revelation 15:7  And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.

The Bible teaches that GOD knows those who are his. He has sealed his people with the Holy Spirit of promise, He has purchased them, they are his servants and his name is upon their foreheads. And they are protected from his wrath.

Revelation 9:4  And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Just as the Jews were protected from the wrath that was poured out upon Egypt. Not by being ‘raptured’ off, but by having the blood applied, so do we.

Exodus 12:13 “And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.”

The Lord protected His own in the Old testament, and He promises to protect us New Testament believers as well!
When the Lord returns who will be removed from the earth, the wicked or the righteous? Matthew 13:41-43  The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. (Also see Matthew 13:49).

Proverbs 10:29-30 ¶ The way of the LORD is strength to the upright: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity. The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.

Proverbs 2:21-22  For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.
See also

The reality     https://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2015/08/21/the-reality/

Yeshua is an antiChrist  https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/keep-your-eyes-on-jesus-not-the-jewish-antichrist-yeshua/

see also

 JEWS IN REALITY ARE NO LONGER GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/25/jews-in-reality-are-no-longer-gods-chosen-people/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/the-bible-and-the-greek-language/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/anti-jewish/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/sole-gospel/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jews-arabs-none-of-them-politically-correct/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-christian-church/

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/all-doctrines-have-to-be-studied-by-the-help-of-the-holy-spirit/

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/judas-is-alive-and-well-even-today/

For he looked for the city which hath the foundations, whose builder and maker is God

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In Genesis 15, God made a promise to Abraham. He declared that the patriarch’s seed would someday possess the territory between “the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates” (v. 18). Has the promise been fulfilled? According to the Bible they have already acquired it once in the past and not second promised full fulfillment is applicable now. Will Israel or the Jews ever acquire the promise land again? Not according to the new testament.. no such promises are made.. Because also Israel has became now the Christian church and it acquires all of God’s promises, Chosen status.

Now the undeniable plain testimony of the Bible itself is that during the reign of Solomon, the kingdom of Israel did extend from the river of Egypt (el-Arish, not the Nile) to the Euphrates River in Mesopotamia. Note the undeniable testimony of 1 Kings 4:21 And Solomon reigned over all kingdoms from the river unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt: they brought presents, and served Solomon all the days of his life.

2 Chronicles 9 : 26 And he reigned over all the kings from the river even unto the land of the Philistines, and to the border of Egypt.

Further, the psalmist, in describing the same historical circumstance, had wrote: “It [the nation of Israel] sent out its branches unto the sea, and its shoots unto the River” (Psalm 80:11).

Thus, in some of the margins of your Bible, beside Genesis 15:18, you too can see or you can write write: See 1 Kings 4:21; 2 Chronicles 9:26; Psalm 80:11.

There is no further, additional Biblical land promise awaiting the Jewish people, the nation of Israel in the future. The Hebrew people lost their past deed to material territory as a result of their spiritual rebellion, which was consummated by their murder of the Messiah.

Joshua 23:15 Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.16 When ye have transgressed the covenant of the LORD your God, which he commanded you, and have gone and served other gods, and bowed yourselves to them; then shall the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and ye shall perish quickly from off the good land which he hath given unto you. The possession of this Promised land was always even conditioned on the Jews keeping all of the words of God. When Israel went into the land of Canaan and possessed it there were then remaining in the land heathen peoples with their false gods and idolatrous worship. Joshua spoke unto Israel of “these that remain among you” (Josh. 23:7/, and warned the people of God “That ye come not among these nations;” “neither make mention of the name of their gods, nor cause to swear by them, neither serve them nor bow yourselves unto them.” Further, he also had said, “Know for a certainty that the Lord your God will no more drive out any of these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the Lord your God hath given you” (Josh. 23:13). The Key watchword was, then, “keep the words of God” or perish. Cf. Deut. 8:19, 20; Deut. 30:18. Often the sins of Israel caused them to lose the land; to be driven out and become slaves to the nations used by the Lord. As captives they lamented unto the Lord, and He, with pity, would bring them back into their land. A case in point to illustrate is David “recovering” the land. The record says, “David smote also Hadadezer, the son of Rehob, king of Zobah, as he went to recover his border at the river Euphrates” (2 Sam. 8:3). Also, “He restored the coast of Israel from the entering of Hamath unto the sea of the plain, according to the word of the Lord God of Israel” (2 Kgs. 14:25). Now any “recovering” of this past land was not a valid fulfillment of the promise; Israel had already inherited and possessed the land and cannot negate their dispersion form the land was due to sin, undeniable, clear disobedience to God. All the later Israeli Land Recoverings, encounters have absolutely nothing to do with the past, fulfilled promise God made to Abraham about the Promised land. While God kept his land promise to Abraham, the rebellion and sins of the Jews afterward was and is the cause of their losing the land.

The New Testament further comments on this land expectation of Abraham indicate now in Hebrews 11:8, 9 “By faith Abraham, when he was called, obeyed to go out unto a place which he was to receive for an inheritance; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he became a sojourner in the land of promise, as in a land not his own, dwelling in tents, with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise.” 10 “For he looked for the city which hath the foundations, whose builder and maker is God.” Also, in Hebrews 11:16 “But now they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed of them, to be called their God; for he hath prepared for them a city.” Clearly if you don’t get saved, then you are NOT God’s people and you will go to Hell forever and not to Zion, the New Jerusalem. Galatians 4 :26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. Rev 3: 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. Revelation 21: 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife. 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

Yet now some people will falsely try to apply today again the inapplicable Old Testament verses to try to justify, approve of Israel’s attempts at the present false Promised land Conquest. Their lying prophecies, predictions that “the regathering of the Jews to their homeland” to “be worldwide in extent;” includes “a future kingdom of regathered Jews in the land of Palestine;” where Jesus will be the earthly king over this kingdom of regathered Jews in Jerusalem, will come to pass is not supported anywhere in the New Testament

The only hope now for all those of Jewish background now is eternal Salvation in the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ Romans 1:14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

“And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever” (2 Sam. 7:12, 13). The apostle Peter quotes this Scripture and makes an inspired application of it to the resurrection of Christ; to the exaltation of Christ to the right hand of the Father, and the Lord’s foes becoming His footstool. Upon these facts the Son of God was preached “both Lord and Christ” (Acts 2:36). In the “name” of this Lord salvation was offered through faith, repentance, and baptism to these Jews “out of every nation under heaven” (Acts 2:5, 36-38). Three thousand of these Jews did obey the Lord that day and were added to the church (Acts 2:41-47). The kingdom of the Messiah was established at Pentecost in Jerusalem; it was at this time the “throne of his kingdom” came into being; it was here the sovereign reign of the ruling Redeemer had its beginning over newly blood-washed saints who comprised His kingdom. He truly is the head of the church, which is His body (Eph. 1:22, 23; Col. 1:18, 24). Peter says that Jesus Christ “is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him” (1 Pet. 3:22). God promised David that He would raise up his seed (Gal. 3:16) and establish His throne and kingdom (2 Sam. 7); God kept His word by raising up the Christ, establishing His kingdom, and giving the Son the throne (Acts 2:30ff; 13:33; Col. 1:13). Are the Jews still “God’s Chosen People”? as the Bible teaches: Now Romans 9:25-26, “As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.” Christians are God’s people. Galatians 3:28-29 says there are no Jews in Christ… Galatians 3:28-29, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” where there is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ.

Romans 11:1-2 and 19-23, I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying … Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.” Romans 11:19-23 now even plainly teaches that unbelieving Jews are already cut off. Only Christian Jews have been grafted back into the tree of God’s people. All else are branches broken off and cast into the fire.

The Scriptures you’ve just read plainly also teach that ONLY the Jews who believe the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ will be grafted back into the tree, the Church or the Temple of God, as God’s people. So now only the saved Jews are God’s Chosen people, but so also are saved Gentiles, they are both part of the new Israel. “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” —Romans 2:28,29 “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” —Galatians 3:29 “Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” —Galatians 3:16 “So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.” —Galatians 3:9

But the Bible still tells us in Luke 21:24… “And they ( the Jews) shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” Until Jesus Christ return in fact. Matthew 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

DISPENSATIONALISM , AMONGST IT’S UNDENIABLE MANY BAD, FALSE TEACHINGS NOW TOO, IS A COWARD’S, A HIRELING’S FALSE COP OUT, A FALSE EXCUSE FIRSTLY NOT TO FULLY, REALLY REPENT OF ONE ‘S PERSONAL SINS, FOR ONE NOT TO REALLY SERVE, TO FOLLOW AFTER GOD AND HIS WILL FOR THEM, AND FOR ONE FALSELY NOT TO BE CULTURALLY ANDS SOCIALLY INVOLVED IN DEALING WITH THE EVIL OF THIS WORLD, HOPING TO AVOID PERSECUTING FROM THE JEWS AS WELL BY NOT ASKING THEM TO REPENT, OR TO SEE THEIR NEED OF ACCEPTING JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR MESSIAH, SAVIOR. TRULY A DIABOLICAL THEOLOGY.

Acts 10:38 KJV How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. .. How did he do this? By filling Him with the same Holy Spirt we can have.. Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas, some not too well hidden even. Rapturists included now, Sadly some people they tend present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness for they tend to falsely have a hidden agenda, one of which is that often they want to get rich, and ?or live in the kingdom off self, to be falsely personally worshipped and still live in sin too Now had most fundamentals actually read their Bibles, known the Bible instead of wrongfully listening to the so called Bible teachers, false preachers, bad teachers they would not have easily deceived to even falsely neglect the present full empowerment available of all believers by the Holy Spirit… Read the scriptures for you think that doing so you will gain eternal life, but many people now do read the Bible and never got eternal life, cause they omitted the spirit of Jesus Christ actual teachings and the Bible’s as well on the Holy Spirit and his ongoing gifts today as well Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth? Luke 21:20 But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know {and} understand that its desolation has come near. Luke 21:21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside [the city] get out of it, and let not those who are out in the country come into it; Luke 21:22 For those are days of vengeance [of rendering full justice or satisfaction], that all things that are written may be fulfilled. Luke 21:23 Alas for those who are pregnant and for those who have babies which they are nursing in those days! For great misery {and} anguish {and} distress shall be upon the land and indignation {and} punishment {and} retribution upon this people. Luke 21:24 They will fall by the mouth {and} the edge of the sword and will be led away as captives to {and} among all nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled (completed). Luke 21:25 And there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars; and upon the earth [there will be] distress (trouble and anguish) of nations in bewilderment {and} perplexity [without resources, left wanting, embarrassed, in doubt, not knowing which way to turn] at the roaring (the echo) of the tossing of the sea, Luke 21:26 Men swooning away {or} expiring with fear {and} dread {and} apprehension and expectation of the things that are coming on the world; for the [very] powers of the heavens will be shaken {and} caused to totter. Luke 21:27 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with great (transcendent and overwhelming) power and [all His kingly] glory (majesty and splendor). Luke 21:28 Now when these things begin to occur, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption (deliverance) is drawing near. Luke 21:29 And He told them a parable: Look at the fig tree and all the trees; Luke 21:30 When they put forth their buds {and} come out in leaf, you see for yourselves and perceive {and} know that summer is already near. Luke 21:31 Even so, when you see these things taking place, understand {and} know that the kingdom of God is at hand. Luke 21:32 Truly I tell you, this generation (those living at that definite period of time) will not perish {and} pass away until all has taken place. Luke 21:33 The sky and the earth (the universe, the world) will pass away, but My words will not pass away. (Rev 21:1 KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 3 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
So if any Jewish or gentile person wants to be in the new Jerusalem they have to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and personal savior rather still too. For there is no other name given unto men by which they can escape from eternal separation from God, Hell.
we all do still do need to know as to what is a real Christian?

There is major ,major misunderstanding even in the church as to what it really means to be a Christian. We need to look at what the Bible itself says here firstly too.. To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing? (Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One, Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.” Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” Mind you they these same liars do have to Tear out the whole Old Testament for a start.. the prophets were clearly anointed, and performed miracles, and the same Jesus yesterday, today and forever who lives in us today too, who was anointed and performed miracles he had also said that believers will do even greater things now too. In the reality now after all Samson next lost his anointing.. and so did King Saul lose his anointing .. and David asked God not to take away his anointing too after he had sinned with Bathsheba..
It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy spirit filled, those people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, but we all can see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”

Many professing Christians are still not real Christians now, these days too, because Most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says nor have they been taught by the Holy Spirit firstly, not even many preachers. (1 Chronicles 16:22-24 NKJV) Saying, “Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm.” {23} Sing to the LORD, all the earth; Proclaim the good news of His salvation from day to day. {24} Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.” Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too… and so now the devil uses any of his followers, those in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the Bible truths.
Time also more Christians read their Bible instead of the fictional books, bad commentaries now too. Really!
The Plymouth Brethren Dispensationalists movement itself has constituted a radical even a false change from the historic teachings of Christianity. James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

So they are dead now even on two accounts.. Denying the present role, works of the Holy Spirit, and their lack of good works by faith, their unloving acts towards the others.

Dispensationalists, Brethren do now falsely deny the “second blessing” , a personal religious Holy Spirit experience after which the believer is set aside for, equipped by God for life.

The Brethren with all of their supposedly Biblical Studies Foundation, Bible studies, or actually Bible passages reinterpretations do say that the teachings of the Charismatic and Pentecostal Movement are false and that “The major doctrine the Pentecostals and Charismatics is that they do not understand is the supposed fact that Christians are not in the Old Testament times, but live in now a different dispensation ” as defined by the Brethren alone.. You falsely have to go by, play by, live now by the new Brethren, man made rules, interpretations, standards and not God’s.

The Brethren boasted, from their very beginning in the nineteenth century, that their teachings represented a wide departure from the doctrines of their predecessors and contemporaries. So it was not surprisingly the Brethren movement was both refuted and rejected rightfully now by the majority of professing real Christians even to date where the related dispensationalism rightfully is something to be avoided like the plague.

In reality, and undeniably those persons who do not go along with them, do not support them they the Brethren, even due to their own insecurities, do declare war against them, ostracize them, slander them, lie about them, divorce them too. All unacceptable and very ungodly, un Christ like , carnal behavior on their parts still too.

Their false doctrine of the separation of Israel and the Church, the foundation of dispensationalism, can also now be clearly seen for what it is, false, by anyone who has a knowledgeable grasp of the New Testament. It is those persons ignorant of the scriptures, those persons not in their Bibles who are the ones so easily deceived by them still too.
“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3): For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

Dispensationalists who unacceptably have a very negative view of the latter days, end times on this world, now it seems to compensate for their often rejections by even main stream Christianity, and as I have even recently now too often now personally witnessed, even on my sites they have to still it seems falsely bash, slander, they falsely call others mentally unstable, biblically unsound, not real Christians, lie against the Pentecostals Christians too even in envy it seems cause they the Pentecostals undeniably are it seems one of the fastest growing group today in Christianity. These abusive, immoral rather Brethren who often do hide, disguise them as Gospel, Bible believing Christians only, are an unacceptable part of the un Holy wars on the net too.. The Brethren dispensational views and related false doctrines have undeniably now been refused, refuted and not accepted by main stream Christianity too. Imagine THESE FALSE CHRISTIANS trying to build a whole theological central base on a few isolated Bile texts too now
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In Galatians 1:6 Paul says, “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you in the grace of Christ, and are turning to a different gospel”. Paul calls down a curse on the preaching of any gospel contrary to the one he received. Judaizing is a false cultural, a false religion, a historical problem that has not disappeared as it is alive and well as it was at the time of Jesus and the Apostles., the demons keep it alive.. It parades itself as an “angel of light” but it smells like smoke and sulfur and has its roots in the pit of hell. Paul regards this imposition of the Law upon the new Gentile converts as a gross perversion of the Gospel. Put simply, the Judaizing heresy is a Christ-plus gospel. in Galatians 4 Paul calls this returning to the weak and beggarly elements of the Law. They are weak because they have no power to save and they are beggarly because they are bankrupt. This heresy is a result of self-deception at the motivational level of the heart. Christianity is all about knowing Christ, and not knowing more about the culture of the Hebrews, Jews. Christ alone is enough! He is all you need. God’s NEW Covenant In The Blood of Jesus Christ, Has REPLACED God’s OLD Covenant With It’s Animal Sacrifices, So Where Does That Leave The Jewish People Who Reject The Son of God? Jesus? and all he had done for each one of us too..
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ is a simple gospel, and it is for all people. This Gospel is for both Jew and Gentile (that includes all of mankind). There is only ONE covenant that God Almighty has with mankind and that is in His Son Jesus Christ! There is no other option here.
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You are either IN or OUT = it is YOUR choice
There is only one way to get right with God and that is through Jesus Christ!
The New Covenant is now = and it is in the BLOOD of Jesus Christ
The purpose of the BLOOD = to atone for your sin
The beauty of the Gospel = It is offered to ALL people
There is no postponement of this beautiful gospel. It is not put on hold for the Jewish people anywhere in this world, including those who reside in the present State of Israel.
The Old Covenant is past, it is dead and gone, never to return
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Do not fall for the modern day NONSENSICAL talk about a Future Temple, with it’s memorial ANIMAL sacrifices, because it is from the pit of Hell! That type of teaching is an absolute insult to the PERFECT and COMPLETED work of Jesus the Christ (Messiah) on the CROSS. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is NOT POSTPONED for anybody, and do NOT forget that!

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